Fall of Rome - WTH!!!

[Grey Fox]

This was real fun in Multiplayer actually.

I played as Visigoths, and my friend played as the "non-barbaric playable civ which is Persia but has another name"-civ.

 

[AceDragon]

So how does this scenario pan out in MP? Is it a race to sack Rome/Byzantine first ?

 

[JustBen]

Originally posted by Bobisback
JustBen the Raider is 2/1/1 10 shields

Geez! Further proof that the techs favor those at the bottom. Though half-price Immortals still sound better than half-price Archers.

Have we mentioned that these Immortals get defensive bombardment too? If the Roman Legions in the scenario weren't 4/4/1, I wouldn't even have considered buying Pillaging.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

Originally posted by Grey Fox
This was real fun in Multiplayer actually.

I played as Visigoths, and my friend played as the "non-barbaric playable civ which is Persia but has another name"-civ.

The Sassanids.

I have tried this scenario but it is so hard. The Huns, Franks, and Romans are all at war with me. And if I lose 3 more cities, I am eliminated. Altough I have razed 4 Western Roman and 3 Eastern Roman cities.

 

[benstandby]

Originally posted by Grey Fox
This was real fun in Multiplayer actually.

Agreed. My friend and I played as Western (me) and Eastern (my friend) Rome. We played to see whose civ would hold out the longest. I won, by one.

He built nothing but troops and was at war with the Sassanids for most of the game if not all. They finally took him out the turn before I was going to loose London to the Celts (my last one).

What I didn't like was that it counts if you loose a city that you took from someone else! And building cities doesn't help you, nor does rebuilding razed ones or recapturing lost cities!

I lost an Eastern Roman city that I took from the Sassy Persians twice!! And both times it counted!

But it WAS fun.

 

[CyberChrist]

This is a very poorly designed/thought out scenario imho. It is called Fall of Rome, yet when I killed of 8 Roman cities and the ENTIRE Roman civilization was wiped off the face of the map - the game didn't end and I hadn't won.

Ridiculous!

 

[JustBen]

Originally posted by CyberChrist
... when I killed of 8 Roman cities and the ENTIRE Roman civilization was wiped off the face of the map - the game didn't end and I hadn't won.

It's not like you're a member of "Team Topple Rome"; the idea is that your civ is supposed to be better off at the end of the game in some sense -- better off than the Huns, better off than the Goths, etc. Just think of the scenario as a normal free-for-all except you get to build supercheap offensive infantry and you get to see the Roman empires crumble before your eyes -- I think that's what the scenario's spirit was supposed to be. I mean, come on: every civ you have to pick from is Militaristic and Industrious. I think that's supposed to be a cue for the scenario's flavor.

 

[Mano3]

JustBen,

I think you are right and your logic takes away some of the pain. I guess most of us go into the Conquest with the mindset that once you topple Rome, you win. Playing out the rest of the game was a bit unexpected.

 

[Masquerouge]

Originally posted by Kute
ok ok I understood first time. The french name is Mur d'Adrien. Guess that erare humanum est.

french : Adrien
english : Hadrian

Now you want to know something funny ? In French, it's Hadrien... with an H... So it's the Mur d'Hadrien.

Errare humanum est, reitere diabolicum est


--Padma

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

Originally posted by Mano3
JustBen,

I think you are right and your logic takes away some of the pain. I guess most of us go into the Conquest with the mindset that once you topple Rome, you win. Playing out the rest of the game was a bit unexpected.

So do you have to get a domination victory or something?

 

[CyberChrist]

JustBen: That might very well be the way to win, but that still doesn't make it logical(considering the bias toward town crushing units and rules) and it certainly doesn't make it a good scenario in my book - quite the contrary.

 

[Emperor Xerxes]

Ha ha, grammar Nazis. Lol.

But onto the scenerio; firstly it is a bit unrealistic that the Eastern Empire falls considering I destroyed it yet I was playing as it in the next scenerio. Its not very historical anyway since the Eastern Empire continued until 1453. I played as Persia as well which was weird, especially when they sacked Rome...

 

[Kute]

Doh... Thank you Masquerouge, i should have double check my source... Looks like some site need a good spell check.

Sorry for the mistake