Favorite feminist

[Hygro]

We both know what happens when I speak unwelcome opinions on this issue in this forum.

At any rate it's not my fault that other people wandered from the subject, so don't act like it's my responsibility to bring the topic back on my own.

"Everyone, change the topic back for me"
everyone be like "we're cool, you do you"
"it's not my fault I don't like it, now make it better for me"

If you wanna wander back on topic, you gotta talk about what you want to talk about, and maybe others will follow.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Yeah I'm the bad guy for insisting that a basic rule of the forum (and of social decorum) be practiced.

Sure.

Why bother with thread topics anyway?

 

[Rashiminos]

We both know what happens when I speak unwelcome opinions on this issue in this forum.

Someone fails a course correction and falls into a pit for having traveled into verboten territory?

At any rate it's not my fault that other people wandered from the subject, so don't act like it's my responsibility to bring the topic back on my own.

It isn't your responsibility, but one figures the person whinging about getting the thread back "on-topic" would, at least, be interested in nudging it in that direction himself. One may figure wrongly...

If "the patriarchy" as a concept is to be believed, why would (heterosexual) men want women to die to begin with? The less women available, the more competition is forced among heterosexual men.

In the sense that 'men' would be perpetrating the manipulation in this scenario, no. The explanation falls between sexual appetites and capitalist profit-seeking, with diverting money away from better uses being another effect. That doesn't preclude someone wanting to inflict miserable deaths, but I doubt 'men' would be the culprit there...

Although if you want a discussion of "The Patriarchy" from someone who seriously considers himself a feminist(-ally), maybe someone else in this thread can help you...

http://www.thenation.com/blog/157601/naomi-wolf-wrong-again-rape

http://www.thenewagenda.net/2011/01/07/naomi-wolf-continues-her-rapist-advocacy-shielding-rape-accusers/

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/21/why-us-is-out-to-get-assange

It was a wonderful smear campaign, complete with unusual readiness to pursue a 'rape case.' Thank Ecuador it didn't go off as planned.

 

[Hygro]

Yeah I'm the bad guy for insisting that a basic rule of the forum (and of social decorum) be practiced.

Sure.

Why bother with thread topics anyway?

Be the change.

 

[Rashiminos]

The actual number of deaths from anorexia nervosa was 286. The 150,000 number wasn't just inaccurate, it was extremely inaccurate. It doesn't help a cause to promote alarmist statistics that can easily be disproven.

Despite the missing link I'd agree that alarmist statistics do not help. Now to search for more accurate statistics, if they're available.... (Wow, that's almost 3 orders of magnitude off, if the 286 figure is accurate).

I don't really understand what you're trying to say with the last paragraph. I brought up the conspiracy theories to show that this idea of beauty standards being used to control women by the patriarchy looks like a long line of odd theories she has promoted.

Seems like a fallacious use of "falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus" in the offing. I'm not sure where the comparison between her assertions in The Beauty Myth and her more recent theories is going, other than weakly suggesting that her methods for finding the assertions in the former resemble her methods for the latter, and based on the 'oddness' (unsoundness?) of the latter, the former is by association, somehow entirely wrong.

That's not to say I think the book has no value, it's good to discuss these effects of beauty standards on women and she brings up the way it effects men a well but I find that central idea of a conspiracy to be very flawed.

I'm wondering if at some point there was a learned association between the words "conspiracy theory" and "flawed," especially when independent of any (de)merits of the theories, hypothetical or otherwise.

 

[gay_Aleks]

This thread is very much on topic.

We should have stayed on the conversation about how porn stars are our actual favourite feminists. It was much more honest than picking names.

And, of course, much more fun to discuss. Probably.

 

[Rashiminos]

We should have stayed on the conversation about how porn stars are our actual favourite feminists. It was much more honest than picking names.

And, of course, much more fun to discuss. Probably.

Is it too late to amend the title to "Favorite Sex-Positive Feminist"?

Edit:

 

[Hygro]

Is it too late to amend the title to "Favorite Sex-Positive Feminist"?

Open the thread

 

[gay_Aleks]

Is it too late to amend the title to "Favorite Sex-Positive Feminist"?

Edit:

It'll die faster than the thread about posting dick pics over phone.

But in it's death, it'll live eternally in our minds.

(no it won't but)