Foreigners

[Theov]

I'm the Iroquois and have eliminated the Japanese.
Now, my Japanese city has made a settler, then that settler made a city. This one citizen is a Japanese citizen.

- I know that foreign citizens become unhappy more easily when at war, but is this also when I'm at war with another country than theirs? (I'm at war with the Chinese now)
- Also, they assimilate when they are a minority longer than they were not. Does this also count for the settler-turned-city-citizen? And is this turns or years?
- What happens with the Japanese guy if I fill his city with jet another group of citizens like the Arabs. Does the Japanese guy become Iroquois or Arab?

 

[CommandoBob]

I'm the Iroquois and have eliminated the Japanese.
Now, my Japanese city has made a settler, then that settler made a city. This one citizen is a Japanese citizen.

It blew my mind the first time this happened to me. It was not what I expected.

- I know that foreign citizens become unhappy more easily when at war, but is this also when I'm at war with another country than theirs? (I'm at war with the Chinese now)

Now that Japan is gone, any remaining Japanese citizens in your city don't care about other wars (except for war-weariness). If Japan were still alive, then those citizens would be upset and you could see it in the city screen. But since their homeland is now gone, they won't care about what happens to their neighbors. They aren't going to protest the war on behalf of China, but they will get tired of the war just like your own people will and at the same rate.

- Also, they assimilate when they are a minority longer than they were not. Does this also count for the settler-turned-city-citizen? And is this turns or years?
- What happens with the Japanese guy if I fill his city with jet another group of citizens like the Arabs. Does the Japanese guy become Iroquois or Arab?

They will assimilate, but the city needs to grow to at least size 3 and the two new citizens would need to be Iroquois. If you added an Arab and Dutch slave to the city to make it size 3, no one would assimilate since no one civ is the majority, each would be 33% and none of them would be yours.

Assimilation is calculated each turn for each foreign citizen. And it is dependent upon your government, if I read the biq properly.

• Anarchy: 1%
• Despotism: 1%
• Monarchy: 2%
• Communism: 4%
• Republic: 2%
• Democracy: 4%
• Fascism: 2%
• Feudalism: 3%

There isn't a pop-up that tells us when a citizen is assimilated, which would be a nice thing. We do get informed when we squelch a resister and this is sorta similar.

I don't think that assimilation works backwards. That is, if you take a Chinese city of 15, let it grow by 1 to 16 and that new citizen is Iroquois, the Iroquois will not become Chinese as long as you control the city. It may fllip, and then your citizen might change sides, but as long as you are the boss your citizens are loyal to you.

 

[Spoonwood]

I think it worthwhile to add here that slaves do NOT require any upkeep. So, if you play in a government where unit support can become an issue, you will have less unit support to pay if you add in native workers as opposed to slaves.

 

[Theov]

I think it worthwhile to add here that slaves do NOT require any upkeep. So, if you play in a government where unit support can become an issue, you will have less unit support to pay if you add in native workers as opposed to slaves.

Good point, my last question was purely hypothetical. Can your foreign citizens assimilate to another nationality than yours. I don't think so by the way, but not for sure.