forty civilisations were announced

[sonicmyst]

My revised List

27. Babylon
28. Mali
29. Carthage
30. Inca
31. Maya
32. Ethiopia
33. Korea
34. Celts
35. Italy
36. Ottomans
37. Portugal
38. Netherlands
39. Byzantines
40. Mongolia
41. Sweden
42. Canada
43. Zulus
44. Iroquois
45. Georgia
46. Gran Colombia
47. Hungary
48. Phoenicia
49. Austria
50. Ashanti

Honorable mentions: Bulgaria, Czechia, Mapuche, Tupi, Muisca, Benin, Madagascar, Vietnam, Siam, Burma, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Hittites, Ireland, Armenia, Polynesia/Maori, Scotland, Assyria

Solid bets!
I am actually thinking hard whether to include Gran Colombia and Italy in my list.

 

[Guandao]

Solid bets!
I am actually thinking hard whether to include Gran Colombia and Italy in my list.

For me, it was between Gran Colombia or Argentina for the former Spanish colony Civ. I know Argentina "has" a female leader in Eva Peron, but Bolivar suits the big personality approach Firaxis is apparently going with.

I think some form of Italy is going to make it into Civ6, since the game has no Italian City states so far.

 

[sonicmyst]

It is really hard to choose since there are so many interesting civs! For me, there should be no question of which civ is significant to be featured in this game. Every civ deserves a spot and I personally appreciate any civ that provides additional interest to this game.

 

[OzzyKP]

My votes:

27. Mongolia
28. Byzantines
29. Carthage
30. Inca
31. Maya
32. Ethiopia
33. Korea
34. Georgia
35. Ottomans
36. Netherlands
37. Portugal
38. Hausa/Nigeria
39. Babylon
40. Sioux
41. Celts
42. Canada
43. Cherokee
44. Vietnam
45. Iroquois
46. Gran Colombia
47. Hungary
48. Mali
49. Austria
50. Morocco

 

[Kimiimaro]

Allright, here I go. I concretized the NA tribes I expect in game, and I changed Malacca for Canada.

1-26. (America, Arabia, Athens, Australia, Aztecs, Brazil, China, Egypt, England, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Japan, Khmer, Kongo, Macedon, Norway, Nubia, Persia, Poland, Rome, Russia, Scythia, Spain, Sparta, Sumeria)
27. Italy/Venice/Florence/Genoa/Papal State/...
28. Netherlands
29. Portugal
30. Celts/Gauls/...
31. Mali/Songhai
32. Morocco
33. Bohemia
34. Babylon
35. Carthage
36. Mongolia
37. Maya
38. Inca
39. Iroquois
40. Zulu

41. Korea
42. Ethiopia
43. Byzantium
44. Ottoman Empire
45. Canada
46. Sioux
47. Sweden
48. Argentina
49. Mughal Empire
50. Assyria

 

[Manifold]

@Inlex;
@Cossackaiser:

Please complete your bet!


btw I change my no 43 of my bet to: Navajo/south west natives (before Akkad)

 

[Manifold]

I'm starting to think Mongols won't make it into the game until at least the first expansion.

I do not think the Mongols had anything to do with railways!


Here...
............is the score after the announcement of "Korea"

For your ranking list is Korea the opposite of Nubia.
ALL of the current participants of this betting game have guessed correctly (100%) that this is in the first 40 Civs.

Congratulations to all


THE ACTUAL RANKING:
1.
luigilime 2 +1 point = 3 points
Xandinho 2 +1 point = 3 points
durfal 2 +1 point = 3 points
Roman Citizen 2 +1 point = 3 points
sonicmyst 2 +1 point = 3 points
Katakanja 2 +1 point = 3 points
Kimiimaro 2 +1 point = 3 points
Arianrhod 2 +1 point = 3 points
Vahnstad 2 +1 point = 3 points
Wingednosering 2 +1 point = 3 points
magha77 2 +1 point = 3 points
Manifold 2 +1 point = 3 points

2.
Duckfromstatefarm 1 +1 point = 2 points
Ferocitus 1 +1 point = 2 points

3.
Alexander's Hetaroi 0 +1 point = 1 point
Guandao 0 +1 point = 1 point
Guatenadian 0 +1 point = 1 point
DWilson 0 +1 point = 1 point
Hawke9 0 +1 point = 1 point
OzzyKP 0 +1 point = 1 point

(still incomplete bets)
Cossackaiser 0 +1 point = 1 point
Inlex 0 +1 point = 1 point
PhilBowles 0 +1 point = 1 point


The race is still open also for late starter but it will be hard to catch up with the others!
Which are the other 13 coming Civs? (you have 23 chances)

 

[Kheznik]

Wish I'd posted earlier and gotten that free Korea point but alas;

1-26. America, Arabia, Australia, etc...

Rise & Fall guess list
27. Korea - Seondeok (+0)
28. Netherlands - Wilhelmina (+1)
29. Mongolia - Kublai Khan (+1)
30. Cree - Poundmaker (+0)
31. Georgia - Tamar (+1)
32. Mapuche - Lautaro
33. Scotland/Celts/Gaels - Robert the Bruce
34. Zulu - Shaka

35. Canada - Samuel de Champlain
36. Ottomans - Mehmed II
37. Incas - Topa Inca

38. Maya - Lady Xok
39. Carthage - Hannibal
40. Byzantium - Alexios I Komnenos
41. Ashanti - Yaa Asantewaa
42. Babylon - Hammurabi

43. Sioux - Sitting Bull
44. Iroquois/Powhatans - Deganawida/Pocahontas
45. Mali - Musa Keita I
46. Goths - Brunhilda
47. Celts - Boudicca
48. Ethiopia - Menelik II
49. Palmyra - Zenobia
50. Italy - Lorenzo de' Medici

I'm sure that they'll end up adding more than 40/50 civs overall. I know Civ V stopped adding DLC civs when G+K came out, but in this age of DLCs and micro-transactions, you never know. Could see upwards of 60. In which case I shall add 10 more for when the 51st DLC civ and/or third expansion pack is announced:

51. Mughals - Nur Jahan
52. Austria - Maria Theresa
53. Navajo - Haastin Ch'il Haajini
54. Philippines - Corazon Aquino
55. Maori - Hongi Hika
56. Denmark/Sweden - Margaret I/Christina
57. Colombia - Simon Bolivar
58. Vietnam - Gia Long
59. Hungary - Stephen I
60. Hittites - Puduhepa

Edit 12/13/17: added Georgia.
Edit 12/28/17: changed several civs around (didn't include the Cree cause that'd be cheating) and included leader guesses for the heck of it.
Edit 1/16/18: moved several civs around following some shocking new information.

 

[Ferocitus]

Time to get serious...
28 Inca
29 Iroquois
30 Zulu
31 Amazigh (Berber)
32 Tamil
33 Mongols
34 Babylon
35 Mali
36 Assyria
37 Ottoman
38 Maori
39 Austro-Hungarian/Hapsburgs
40 Navaho

 

[luigilime]

my edit for the expansion:
1-24{America, Aztec, Arabia, Brazil, Egypt, Sumeria, Greece, Rome, Poland, Germany, France, Spain, England, Norway, Russia, Kongo, India, Persia, Macedon, Scythia, China, Japan, Australia, Indonesia, Khmer, Nubia}

27 Netherlands
28 Portugal
29 Inca
30 Babylon
31 Mali/ Songhai
32 Ethiopia
33 Zulu
34 Siam
35 Mongolia
36 Korea
37 Byzantium
38 Ottomans
39 Celts
40 Italy
41 Vietnam
42 Swahili/Kilwa
43 Sioux
44 Morocco
45 Carthage
46 canada
47 Sweden
48 Maori/Polynesia
49 Maya
50 Iroquois

 

[Inlex]

@Inlex;
@Cossackaiser:

Please complete your bet!


btw I change my no 43 of my bet to: Navajo/south west natives (before Akkad)

Done. Also, I'd like to take the time to say: Wilhelmina: Called it!

 

[Duckfromstatefarm]

knowing that we have now 24 Civs in the game right now (America, Arabia, Australia, Aztec, Brazil, China, Egypt, England, France, German, Greek, India, Japan, Kongo, Macedon, Nubia, Norway, Persia, Poland, Roman, Russia, Scythia, Spain, Sumer)

I'm expecting to be wrong but here is my next guess or wishlist for the 26 civs would be this :

25 - Indonesia/Srivijaya/Majapahit
26 - Vietnam
27 - Carthage
28 - Iceni
29 - Korea
30 - Maya
31 - Inca
32 - Celts
33 - Mongolia
34 - Austria
35 - Zulu
36 - Ottomans
37 - Huns
38 - Byzantium
39 - Shoshone
40 - Bulgaria

Yes, I put the Iceni on the list, as my inspiration from watching Alexander lead Macedon instead of Greece which is why I put the Iceni on the list, knowing that Boudicca has led the Celts the last two Civ titles (Civ 4 and Civ 5). It's a move I'm going to predict to see Boudicca leading her Iceni tribe instead of the Celts as if Fixaris wants to add new civs to surprise us I could see the Iceni/Celts split coming but I'd love to be wrong.

And if it's 50 civs planned the next 10 that I would like to see :

41 - Apache
42 - Gaul
43 - Dacia
44 - Siam
45 - Polynesia
46 - Olmec
47 - Hitties
48 - Babylon
49 - Assyria
50 - Netherlands

My now revised list starting from the 27th down is :

27: Korea (confirmed)
28: Dutch/Netherlands (Confirmed)
29. Georgia (Guessing Tamar of Georgia leads it)
30. Portugal
31. Ottomans
32. Celts/Iceni/Gaul (Celts could be possibly split and Boudicca may get her own civ)
33. Palmyra (I wouldn't be surprised if this civ shows up with Zenobia leading it as this civ and Zenobia fit Rise and Fall perfectly)
34. Mali
35. Mongols
36. Carthage
37. Vietnam (still expect to be surprised by this civ).
38. Inca
39. Maya
40. Zulu (Gotta bring Shaka back)
41. Iroquis/Shoshone
42. Apache/Black water/Sioux/Navajo
43. Morocco
44. Goths
45. Babylon/Assyria
46. Argentina/Venezula/Columbia/ Grand Columbia Civ (any new civ from South America is needed)
47. Mongols (at some point they may appear could be this expansion but who knows)
48. Picts (Another civ that may be a possibility if the Celts get split up don't expect this one showing up)
49. Kilwa
50. Canada/New Zealand (at some point in the Civ series we could see either one of these two civs)

 

[Zatsukino]

I would rather getting Phoenicia than Carthage this time, and let the spot for another North African civilization just like Numidia or Mauretania. I hate Morroco tbh, Having Massinissa, Juba, Kahina and famous berber figures this time would be really enjoyable.

So :

Africa :
27-Mali
28-Zulus
29-Ethiopia
30-Numidia

Europe :
31-Portugal
32-Netherlands
33-Austria
34-Celts
35-Georgia
36- Italy/Venice
37-Byzantium

Asia :
38-Korea
39-Mongols
40-Ottomans
41-Babylon
42-Phoenicia
43-Palmyra

America :
44-Mayan
45-Inca
46-Iroquois
47-Navajo
48-Sioux

Oceania :
49-Maori
50-Hawaii

 

[oski90]

Asia
27. Korea (confirmed)
28. Mongolia (confirmed)
29. Vietnam (Trung Sisters)
30. Ottomans (Suleiman)
31. Palmyra (Zenobia)
32. Assyria (Ashurbanipal)

Europe
33. Netherlands (confirmed)
34. Portugal (Henry the Navigator)
35. Byzantium (Justinian)
36. Sweden (Gustavus Adolphus)
37. Italy (Garibaldi)
38. Habsburgs/Austria (Maria Teresa)
39. Celts (Boudicca, I guess)

Africa
40. Mali (Musa)
41. Ashanti (Osei Tutu)
42. Carthage (Himilco)
43. Ethiopia (Selassie)
44. Zulu (Who else?)

Americas:
45. Shawnee (Tecumseh)
46. Sioux (Sitting Bull)
47. Canada (Lester Pearson)
48. Maya (Pakal)
49. Inca (Pachacuti)
50. Argentina (Eva Peron)

 

[oski90]

And if I could I'd swap out Argentina for Mexico (Juarez), and ditch the Celts in favor of the Philippines (Jose Rizal)

 

[Manifold]

My now revised list starting from the 27th down is :

29. Georgia (Guessing Tamar of Georgia leads it)
30. Portugal
33. Palmyra (I wouldn't be surprised if this civ shows up with Zenobia leading it as this civ and Zenobia fit Rise and Fall perfectly)
34. Mali
35. Mongols
37. Vietnam (still expect to be surprised by this civ).
41. Iroquis/Shoshone
42. Apache/Black water/Sioux/Navajo
43. Morocco
44. Goths
45. Babylon/Assyria
46. Argentina/Venezula/Columbia/ Grand Columbia Civ (any new civ from South America is needed)
47. Mongols (at some point they may appear could be this expansion but who knows)
48. Picts (Another civ that may be a possibility if the Celts get split up don't expect this one showing up)
49. Kilwa
50. Canada/New Zealand (at some point in the Civ series we could see either one of these two civs)

Thanks for your update but please pay attention for a valid bet you only can change one Civ once a month. Also your no 41, 42, 45, 46, 47, 50 should be more precise please



Here...
...is the score after the announcement of "Mongolia, Netherlands and Cree"

We get two safe candidates and one surprise Civ.
Nobody has bet on the Cree!
Therefore, there were no big changes in the ranking.


THE ACTUAL RANKING:
1.
luigilime 3 + 2 points = 5 points
Xandinho 3 + 2 points = 5 points
durfal 3 + 2 points = 5 points
Roman Citizen 3 + 2 points = 5 points
sonicmyst 3 + 2 points = 5 points
Katakanja 3 + 2 points = 5 points
Kimiimaro 3 +2 point = 5 points
Arianrhod 3 +2 point = 5 points
Vahnstad 3 +2 point = 5 points
Wingednosering 3 +2 point = 5 points
magha77 3 +2 point = 5 points
Manifold 3 + 2 points = 5 points

2.
Duckfromstatefarm 2 + 2 point = 4 points

3.
Ferocitus 2 + 1 point = 3 points
Alexander's Hetaroi 1 + 2 points = 3 points
Guandao 1 + 2 points = 3 points
Guatenadian 1 + 2 points = 3 points
DWilson 1 + 2 points = 3 points
Hawke9 1 + 2 points = 3 points
OzzyKP 1 + 2 points = 3 points
Inlex 1 + 2 points = 3 points

4.
Kheznik 0 + 2 points = 2 points

5.
oski90 0 + 0 point = 0 point (just started)
Zatsukino 0 + 0 point = 0 point (just started)


(still incomplete bets)
@Cossackaiser 1 + 0 point = 1 point (+Blackfoot?)
@PhilBowles 1 + 2 point = 3 points


The race is still open also for late starter but it will be very hard to catch up with the others!
Which are the other 10 coming Civs? (you have 20 chances)

 

[DWilson]

So, we currently have: America, Aztecs, Brazil, Australia, Indonesia, Khmer, Japan, China, India, Scythia, Persia, Sumeria, Arabia, Egypt, Nubia, Kongo, Poland, Russia, Norway, England, Germany, France, Spain, Rome, Greece, Macedon, Korea, Netherlands, and Mongolia

27. Mongolia
28. Ottomans
29. Inca
30. Byzantium
31. Iroquois
32. Sioux (Cree pretty much disqualify) Muisca (One Change)
33. Maya
34. Nazca
35. Portugal
36. Netherlands
37. Austria-Hungary
38. Carthage
39. Mali
40. Babylon
41. Mughals
42. Moors
43. Celts
44. Canada
45. Vietnam
46. Cuba
47. Zulu
48. Ethiopia
49. Korea
50. Florence

 

[Vahnstad]

(America, Arabia, Australia, Aztec, Brazil, China, Egypt, England, France, German, Greek, India, Japan, Kongo, Macedon, Vikings, Persia, Poland, Roman, Russia, Scythia, Spain, Sumer, Nubia)

in no particular order
25. Netherlands
26. Sweden
27. Austria
28. Portugal
29. Byzantines
30. Hungary
31. Indonesia
32. Siam
33. Babylon
34. Assyria
35. Korea
36. Mongolia
37. Ethiopia
38. Morocco
39. Inca
40. Mayan
41. Vietnam
42. Canada
43. Mali
44. Celts
45. Mexico
46. Zulu
47. Ottomans
48. Khmer
49. Carthage
50. Sioux -> 50. Georgia

Some stupid choices in the list. Siam, Mexico and Sioux are unlikely. I will remove Sioux and replace them with Georgia. Would have considered Italy too if was able to make one more change lol.

(if i had to add 10 more civs (they don't count), i would choose these)

51. Argentina
52. Colombia
53. Muisca
54. Iroquois
55. Apache
56. Navajo
57. Italy
58. Ghana
59. Mughals
60. Oman (or Bulgaria)

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Here is an updated list:
27. Korea
28. Netherlands
29. Mongolia
30. Cree
31. Ottomans
32. Italy
33. Mali
34. Inca
35. Celts
36. Zulu
37. Babylon
38. Gran Colombia
39. Maya
40. Sweden
41. Austria
42. Carthage
43. Iroquois
44. Byzantium
45. Portugal
46. Assyria
47. Navajo
48. Argentina
49. Ethiopia
50. Polynesia
I'm taking the Sioux and Canada out due to the Cree. Probably should wait for confirmation on Canada but feeling risky. Added Navajo instead.

 

[Lee Duane Fitzsimmons]

The Khazars

(This is a REAL kingdom that existed in Eastern Europe during the Dark Ages)

Don't believe me...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars