Franco will move.

[Cloud_Strife]

@Cloud_Strife, you're literally neurotic siege mentality is obviously a mentally unhealthy thing. I think you should seek therapy on this matter from a completely separate psychiatric professional as the one who dealt with your gender issues.

His comics are a matter of public record, I don't believe he is arguing in good faith especially when he is pulling the "virtue signalling" card.

Also please put me on ignore if you can't handle my continued existence.

 

[CurtSibling]

His comics are a matter of public record, I don't believe he is arguing in good faith especially when he is pulling the "virtue signalling" card.

Is that distinct from the "blatant transphobia" card?

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Clearly you have taken a skim over my work, and never read my actual views. I'd be in prison or hanged in a fascist regime.

You need to learn about a person before making such lurid comments, Cloud.

The only joke here is your words above. Twitter chatter doesn't wash with me.

Art is a reflection of the artist themselves, that you feel comfortable with ironically appropriating fascist imagery is your problem that you need to come to terms with, not mine.

Edit:

Don't worry you'll probably be spared, a fascist regime has use for skills such as yours, after all you certainly have no problem displaying your ideological enemies as degenerates worthy of combating and I'm sure that irony of yours will be a sufficient shield from which you can protect yourself.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Is that distinct from the "blatant transphobia" card?

Yes, your representation of transwomen in particular speaks for itself, it's indistinguishable from all the other hatred and bigotry I've seen online and just because you like to claim it's a joke or Ironic doesn't diminish the impact it has upon transpeople.

Own your use of dogwhistles.

It's also why I don't have much time for your claims of virtue signalling, I'm not the one that plays with fascist imagery to skewer strawman online and that clearly shapes your opinion on whether it's acceptable to openly support fascism or hold sympathies with fascist regimes.

 

[Patine]

His comics are a matter of public record, I don't believe he is arguing in good faith especially when he is pulling the "virtue signalling" card.

I was not referring to that post of yours alone, but the tenor of your posts in general. Though your target of ideological opposition is quite different, your approach, attitude, tone, and viewpoint are practically McCarthyist in nature. This is a serious problem, whether you realize it or not. You're very likely attracting far more animosity and hostility to yourself by promoting this attitude than your transsexual nature could ever attract to you passively.

 

[Josu]

For every atrocity committed by the Nationalists there's one by the Republicans.

Oh, fine, this justifies the next 40 years under a Dictatorial fascist regime

 

[Zardnaar]

I was not referring to that post of yours alone, but the tenor of your posts in general. Though your target of ideological opposition is quite different, your approach, attitude, tone, and viewpoint are practically McCarthyist in nature. This is a serious problem, whether you realize it or not. You're very likely attracting far more animosity and hostility to yourself by promoting this attitude than your transsexual nature could ever attract to you passively.

Patine logic won't work lol. This is a problem with extreme lefties they undermine themselves, insult everyone and wonder why they lose elections to orange Turnips.

Remember the good old days you and myself would have at it. I don't recall you insulting me lol.

We should have a beer sometime and hash out some Social Democratic policies.

Well we'll called fascists though since we don't want to murder them. I'm quite happy to lock them up or execute then if they get violent.

 

[Patine]

Oh, fine, this justifies the next 40 years under a Dictatorial fascist regime

To play the Devil's Advocate, on the flip side, your viewpoint there basically says Fulgencio Batista is off the hook for all the atrocities and crap he did, because of decades of the Castro Brothers that followed. Things are never so simple as that in history.

 

[Zardnaar]

Oh, fine, this justifies the next 40 years under a Dictatorial fascist regime

Patine condemns right wing stuff.

I don't see anyone complaining to much about Cuba.

It's not so much that fascism appeals but the fascists seem less likely to murder us lol.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

It's not so much that fascism appeals but the fascists seem less likely to murder us lol.

Well, I must admit that the Fascists murdering you seems extremely unlikely.

 

[Dekker]

I was not referring to that post of yours alone, but the tenor of your posts in general. Though your target of ideological opposition is quite different, your approach, attitude, tone, and viewpoint are practically McCarthyist in nature. This is a serious problem, whether you realize it or not. You're very likely attracting far more animosity and hostility to yourself by promoting this attitude than your transsexual nature could ever attract to you passively.

Lol Cloud is McCarthy trying to silence rich coming from the guy whose go to approach to silence is dismissing his target by suggesting mental illness. You should go back and read some of your own posts, surely you'd be suggesting a therapist for yourself as well!

 

[Cloud_Strife]

I've been physically assaulted for being trans but go ahead Patine, you know better than I.

 

[Patine]

Lol Cloud is McCarthy trying to silence rich coming from the guy whose go to approach to silence is dismissing his target by suggesting mental illness. You should go back and read some of your own posts, surely you'd be suggesting a therapist for yourself as well!

I have never taken a McCarthyist approach to anything. I have never advocated silencing ANYONE. I do not hold a strict "black-and-white, us-and-them, Neo-Manichaean" view of affairs. I have not outright called anyone (other than historical figures) an outright "Fascist" or "Communist." And, I have never actually outright condemned another poster as an advocate of hate rhetoric.

 

[Patine]

I've been physically assaulted for being trans but go ahead Patine, you know better than I.

I wasn't denying that. As a social worker, I am well of how much bad attention PASSIVELY being transsexual actually attracts. What I'm saying is that your attitude beings even more hostility and ill-will upon you, by the nature of what you demand and espouse, that greatly increases the unjust treatment you get for being transsexual alone. You are a very accusatory, inflexible, uncompromising, demanding, and firebrand individual in your social advocacy, but your station in society, quite unfortunately, doesn't make your stance at all viable or realistic.

 

[Dekker]

I have never taken a McCarthyist approach to anything. I have never advocated silencing ANYONE. I do not hold a strict "black-and-white, us-and-them, Neo-Manichaean" view of affairs. I have not outright called anyone (other than historical figures) an outright "Fascist" or "Communist." And, I have never actually outright condemned another poster as an advocate of hate rhetoric.

Just calling others mentally ill as a way to shut down their arguments is all.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well, I must admit that the Fascists murdering you seems extremely unlikely.

I'm not a trade unionist or member of a political party or a communist. The Nazis persecuted a very small % of the population.

The Communists had a lot wider definition of enemy of the state. I would probably be alright under a communist regime as I'm not in any group they would like persecute beyond maybe losing the house. But my family would not be safe under Stalinism or a few other types of Communism as they would count as Kulaks (no they're not 1%ers but they own more than a cow).

If I was Polish I would have been on Stalins hit list. I would probably be alright to some extent under Castro.

Not all members of my family would be safe under Nazism they would be reasonably alright in Francos Spain or Mussolini's Italy. They're not Jewish but they're not white.

 

[Zardnaar]

Ignore dp.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

I'm not willing to give people who openly flirt with fascist imagery, iconography and openly opine about how feminists are "********s" through their webcomics, the benefit of the doubt because that stretches credibility past the breaking point in my eyes.

Nor would I give the benefit of the doubt to a tankie who had a comic glorifying the genocidal, inhumane and repressive excesses of the Chinese government, ironically or otherwise.

Even less so when they enter a thread about a topic that they clearly have a vested interest in to accuse others of virtue signalling when identifying others who might share his views but in a manner not couched or steeped in insincere irony.

 

[Patine]

Just calling others mentally ill as a way to shut down their arguments is all.

Actually, that's not what I'm doing, but thanks for playing on stereotype. Most paranoid delusions and neurotic obsessions actually do have a core nugget of legitimacy upon which they're based. The mentally illness is the gross exaggeration and distortion of this fact in the person's mind that leads to psychologically unhealthy behaviour and unrealistic beliefs. @Cloud_Strife very much has legitimate concerns and angers about transsexual treatment in society, and how many view them. However, his posts show he's taken this to an extreme and unrealistic point of view, is approaching any possible solution from a platform he just can't back up (his inflexible, uncompromising, and demanding rhetoric is far beyond his powers to follow through on), and his insistence that everyone is "friend or enemy," often by arbitrary criteria, is a surefire magnet for even greater hostility. But, it must be far easier for your argument to just declare outright I'm using the concern of mental illness to shut people down.

 

[abradley]

Just to make things clear (which I thought I already had). I am a USA Constitutionalist, but if that is not available I have my druthers depending on what's available and I prefer individualism rather than collectivism.