Germanic - Celtic relationship?

are the Germanic and Celtic peoples in any way related (as in more so than Germanic and Latin)?

Germanic and Celtic are not meaningful terms in any sense other than the linguistic. With that in mind, they are both members of the Indo-European Family, so yes.
 
In answer to your question, no. There are no particularly close connections between Germanic and Celtic, though the former replaced the latter in most of the British Isles and in southern Germany/Austria.

Celtic and Latin/Italic are seemingly quite close to each other, but linguists don't agree on why (either shared conservatism or common innovations in the post-PIE era).
 
Aren't the Celtic languages more closely related to the Italic languages - though not so much to Latin itself - than they are to the Germanic languages? Culturally, there seem to be virtually no ties whatsoever between the Germans and the Celts, at least not any that don't also exist between other groups in the area. Assuming, of course, that you're not referring to the obvious ties between the English and the Gaels, which are far more recent than the Classical period.
 
Im reading wikia now
The Proto-Celtic language, also called Common Celtic, is the reconstructed ancestor language of all the known Celtic languages. Its lexis can be confidently reconstructed on the basis of the comparative method of historical linguistics. Proto-Celtic is a branch of the Western Indo-European languages, with the other branches Italic languages, Germanic languages and the Balto-Slavic group. The exact relationships between these branches are under discussion.
The earliest archaeological culture that may justifiably be considered as Proto-Celtic is the Late Bronze Age Urnfield culture of central Europe from the last quarter of the second millennium BC. By the Iron Age Hallstatt culture of around 800 BC these people had become fully Celtic.
Hallstatt, Upper Austria, is a village in the Salzkammergut, a region in Austria. It is located near the Hallstätter See (a lake). At the 2001 census, it had 946 inhabitants. Alexander Scheutz has been mayor of Hallstatt since 2009.
Hallstatt is known for its production of salt, dating back to prehistoric times, and gave its name to the Hallstatt culture.
 
Aren't the Celtic languages more closely related to the Italic languages - though not so much to Latin itself - than they are to the Germanic languages? Culturally, there seem to be virtually no ties whatsoever between the Germans and the Celts, at least not any that don't also exist between other groups in the area. Assuming, of course, that you're not referring to the obvious ties between the English and the Gaels, which are far more recent than the Classical period.

I think it's generally thought to be completely independent of both. I personally love the Italo-Celtic theory because I've noticed similarities before but the evidence is pretty strong that theory is not all that credible and is more a combination of common Indo-European words, borrowed words for Italic languages, and coincidence. If Celtic and Italic languages branched after they branched from others, it was still close to the original branching of languages and not a more recent thing.

Although wikipedia, it's useful for background information
 
Gauls/Celts settled Northern Italy - Gallia Cisalpina. Surely there might have been some interbreeding during Roman times. But from what I've learned in school surely the rest of the Italic peoples were Indo-European (not all of them, I know) but with no strong ties to the Celts.
With language it might have been just a coincidence after all.
 
Gauls/Celts settled Northern Italy - Gallia Cisalpina. Surely there might have been some interbreeding during Roman times. But from what I've learned in school surely the rest of the Italic peoples were Indo-European (not all of them, I know) but with no strong ties to the Celts.
With language it might have been just a coincidence after all.
"Interbreeding"?
 
Well, i think that the Latins certainly bred with other Italic peoples. I'm only going for assumptions though, don't kill me if I'm wrong.
But yeah I kinda invented that term:)

What the hell are "Italic peoples"? Is this how languages work? A German speaker and a French speaker have sex and pop out an English speaker? Learn something new every day.
 
What the hell are "Italic peoples"? Is this how languages work? A German speaker and a French speaker have sex and pop out an English speaker? Learn something new every day.

The Italic peoples would be the various populations the lived in Italy before they got amalgamated(?) by the Romans. There were many of them, both during the Bronze age and the Iron age. I thought that we were talking about actual genetic/cultural ties (which I was refering to), not just language and I was wrong.

I like how the posters of this section always jeopardize any mistake in saying something that isn't even utterly wrong or proposed as an unquestionable fact, but a simple failure in understanding the argument:lol:
 
The Italic peoples would be the various populations the lived in Italy before they got amalgamated(?) by the Romans. There were many of them, both during the Bronze age and the Iron age. I thought that we were talking about actual genetic/cultural ties (which I was refering to), not just language and I was wrong.

I like how the posters of this section always jeopardize any mistake in saying something that isn't even utterly wrong or proposed as an unquestionable fact, but a simple failure in understanding the argument:lol:
There is no such thing as an "Italic" (or even Italian) genotype. Nor is there a "Roman" one. There isn't a "Celtic" one either, since we're on the subject. Culturally, we don't know much about the native Italians prior to Etruscan and Greek infiltration, but we know that the Sicels were apparently originally a mainland group. That's about it. There's no such thing as an "Italic" culture, anyway, though there is evidence of a similar culture across much of the Celtic world, (the La Tene culture pretty much dominated Gaul).

This illustates, therefore, that your argument was not misunderstood, but incorrect. There can't be "interbreeding" between the same species, let alone the same genotype (though sometimes the term is used, such as if one were to say that wolves were interbreeding with coyotes, even though both are the same species, canines. I've long thought that there needs to be some intermediate term, but damned if I know what to use). The correct term is 'intermarriage,' which certainly occurred, and always has.
 
There is no such thing as an "Italic" (or even Italian) genotype. Nor is there a "Roman" one. There isn't a "Celtic" one either, since we're on the subject. Culturally, we don't know much about the native Italians prior to Etruscan and Greek infiltration, but we know that the Sicels were apparently originally a mainland group. That's about it. There's no such thing as an "Italic" culture, anyway, though there is evidence of a similar culture across much of the Celtic world, (the La Tene culture pretty much dominated Gaul).

This illustates, therefore, that your argument was not misunderstood, but incorrect. There can't be "interbreeding" between the same species, let alone the same genotype (though sometimes the term is used, such as if one were to say that wolves were interbreeding with coyotes, even though both are the same species, canines. I've long thought that there needs to be some intermediate term, but damned if I know what to use). The correct term is 'intermarriage,' which certainly occurred, and always has.

We do however have many archaelogical artifacts that testify the existance of those populations. My knowledge on the subject mostly comes from recent school teachings, so it may be heavily biased and with many assumptions but I think that they wouldn't teach of populations that never existed. I know there was no Italic culture as a whole, sure, but there were many smaller cultures or populations that were living in Italy and are refered to in Italian as "Italic" which actually is the name of a specific population that lived in Calabria
 
Italic is also a language group. It includes Latin, but also Oscan, Umbrian, etc.
 
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