Get your dog off my grass!
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WWTVICTOR
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For me, it is not necessary to wipe the rivals away, except those really annoying and blocking my way, otherwise, building more infrastructures is more interesting (to see yours become the toppest on the world is really good).
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If they are peaceful and lack a resource that I need, I will leave them be so long as they are willing to trade fairly for their Luxuries. Most often, I absorb all of the nations immediately surrounding my location in order to grow to a size suitable for my purposes, which is usually a central core of cities buffered by 2-3 rings of outer cities.
In the current game that I am playing (Iroquois/Large Continents/Emperor), I started off in the middle of a North America sized/shaped continent, on the east coast. I had two civs to my north, four civs to my west, and 3-4 civs to the south. I wound up conquering all of the middle portion of my continent while the Greeks conquered the north and the Persians & Mongols held the south. To place it in comparison to the NA example, I would have held the USA and Mexico, while the Greeks had Canada and the Persians & Mongols shared South America. I had previously scuffled with the Greeks 1-2 times to a stalemate, but as there was a natural mountain barrier between us (which was a PITA with their Hoplites & Musketmen) and my empire was not cramped, I was not intent on taking them out, despite them having an extensive amount of grassland. I had been completely at peace with the Persians while the Mongols were too far away for them to have been a nuisance to me.
I was fine with this living arrangement, until the IA arrived and the Greeks and Persians went to war with one another. They inevitably began trespassing my borders with hordes of Riflemen/Infantry/Cavlary moving towards one another, intent on turning the middle of my empire into their battleground, which was not acceptable to me. I had to periodically flex my diplomatic muscle to get each of them to GTFO or declare war, which worked for about 20 turns, at which point the Persians finally declared war. I did not then request that the Greeks leave, as that gave me some time to deal with the Persian threat before turning my attention towards them. I had spent the 'GTFO' period carefully preparing for the eventuality of fighting both of them simultaneously, so I was well-prepared to wipe Persia's entire invading force from the face of the planet and went to work absorbing their cities that bordered mine, which were extremely vulnerable to my Artillery + Cavalry.
With the Persian threat removed, I waited until Alexander's forces were in weaker defensive terrain (plains/grasslands) and demanded that Alexander leave, knowing that he would declare - which he did - and wiped his forces out as well (Railroads are AWESOME) while my garrisons to the south held on to what they had gained. Twenty or so turns later, both empires were mine and I nearly controlled the entire continent, despite that not being my intention when I began.
I had this massive military with nothing to use it on, so I then attacked the Mongols because hey, free land.
I now own the entire continent, or 35% of world's area. I promptly switched to Communism so that all of my cities would be productive (Corruption is VERY low as a Commercial Communist civ) and set my sights on the other continent (where I had seven cities from when those civs declared on me at the start of the IA's World War), who were no longer willing to trade fairly with me and were becoming rather uppity. It is the Modern Age now, and I have wiped out both the Ottomans and Zulu on the other continent, and have just finished researching for Modern Armor, which bodes well for my world conquest.
Egypt owns their own Australia-sized continent to the north in between the two major landmasses, as they were only there with the English, and I have had a very good relationship with them, but because they have several 20+ population cities and I am pursuing a Domination victory, I'm afraid that I'll need to conquer them simply for the population boost that would give me.
I have had three noticeable things happen to me in this game:
1) I have been at perpetual war for nearly the entire game.
2) I did not receive a Great General until the middle of the IA, despite having tons of Elite Knights/Cavalry who were set up to win battles. *shakes fist*.
3) I am richer now in the beginning of the Modern Age than I ever have been in any game before (I'm currently sitting at 30k gold with nothing to spend it on aside from unit upgrades).
I'm thinking that this will be my greatest scoring conquest yet.
TLDR: Acquiring a continent to oneself is not my goal, however decisions made by the AI inevitably lead to that reality.
In the current game that I am playing (Iroquois/Large Continents/Emperor), I started off in the middle of a North America sized/shaped continent, on the east coast. I had two civs to my north, four civs to my west, and 3-4 civs to the south. I wound up conquering all of the middle portion of my continent while the Greeks conquered the north and the Persians & Mongols held the south. To place it in comparison to the NA example, I would have held the USA and Mexico, while the Greeks had Canada and the Persians & Mongols shared South America. I had previously scuffled with the Greeks 1-2 times to a stalemate, but as there was a natural mountain barrier between us (which was a PITA with their Hoplites & Musketmen) and my empire was not cramped, I was not intent on taking them out, despite them having an extensive amount of grassland. I had been completely at peace with the Persians while the Mongols were too far away for them to have been a nuisance to me.
I was fine with this living arrangement, until the IA arrived and the Greeks and Persians went to war with one another. They inevitably began trespassing my borders with hordes of Riflemen/Infantry/Cavlary moving towards one another, intent on turning the middle of my empire into their battleground, which was not acceptable to me. I had to periodically flex my diplomatic muscle to get each of them to GTFO or declare war, which worked for about 20 turns, at which point the Persians finally declared war. I did not then request that the Greeks leave, as that gave me some time to deal with the Persian threat before turning my attention towards them. I had spent the 'GTFO' period carefully preparing for the eventuality of fighting both of them simultaneously, so I was well-prepared to wipe Persia's entire invading force from the face of the planet and went to work absorbing their cities that bordered mine, which were extremely vulnerable to my Artillery + Cavalry.
With the Persian threat removed, I waited until Alexander's forces were in weaker defensive terrain (plains/grasslands) and demanded that Alexander leave, knowing that he would declare - which he did - and wiped his forces out as well (Railroads are AWESOME) while my garrisons to the south held on to what they had gained. Twenty or so turns later, both empires were mine and I nearly controlled the entire continent, despite that not being my intention when I began.
I had this massive military with nothing to use it on, so I then attacked the Mongols because hey, free land.
I now own the entire continent, or 35% of world's area. I promptly switched to Communism so that all of my cities would be productive (Corruption is VERY low as a Commercial Communist civ) and set my sights on the other continent (where I had seven cities from when those civs declared on me at the start of the IA's World War), who were no longer willing to trade fairly with me and were becoming rather uppity. It is the Modern Age now, and I have wiped out both the Ottomans and Zulu on the other continent, and have just finished researching for Modern Armor, which bodes well for my world conquest. Egypt owns their own Australia-sized continent to the north in between the two major landmasses, as they were only there with the English, and I have had a very good relationship with them, but because they have several 20+ population cities and I am pursuing a Domination victory, I'm afraid that I'll need to conquer them simply for the population boost that would give me.
I have had three noticeable things happen to me in this game:
1) I have been at perpetual war for nearly the entire game.
2) I did not receive a Great General until the middle of the IA, despite having tons of Elite Knights/Cavalry who were set up to win battles. *shakes fist*.
3) I am richer now in the beginning of the Modern Age than I ever have been in any game before (I'm currently sitting at 30k gold with nothing to spend it on aside from unit upgrades).
I'm thinking that this will be my greatest scoring conquest yet.
TLDR: Acquiring a continent to oneself is not my goal, however decisions made by the AI inevitably lead to that reality.
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