GIII-Iota
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I may have a winning game on my hands, I'm not certain yet.
I have to still launch my muskets on Egypt (the largest civ with the biggest most fertile island) and take them over.
However, Egypt isn't the most technological civ in the game, the French are. How lucky
If it succeeds, I will almost certainly win.
(The true danger has been France since they have the lighthouse as well as a bunch of other wonders, but they are not big enough to win if I take over Egypt)
And China is puny. I would not be surprised if France wiped them out.
And did I mention I'm doing a semi AW to try to keep them out of Republic?
Semi AW because I have had a few good trade deals here or there, plus when France got boats in the seas faster than my Dromons could get in, I had to make peace
UPDATE: France seems to be getting more powerful... I see a few island colonies popping up... and France is in Republic... I think I will end up attacking France instead... for now, I redeclare war on France, confident in my spears on my land and boats defending the sea passages... hopefully that will slow them. I also start to send dromons to slow them down. I fear no one but France.
I have to still launch my muskets on Egypt (the largest civ with the biggest most fertile island) and take them over.
However, Egypt isn't the most technological civ in the game, the French are. How lucky
If it succeeds, I will almost certainly win.
(The true danger has been France since they have the lighthouse as well as a bunch of other wonders, but they are not big enough to win if I take over Egypt)
And China is puny. I would not be surprised if France wiped them out.
And did I mention I'm doing a semi AW to try to keep them out of Republic?
Semi AW because I have had a few good trade deals here or there, plus when France got boats in the seas faster than my Dromons could get in, I had to make peace
UPDATE: France seems to be getting more powerful... I see a few island colonies popping up... and France is in Republic... I think I will end up attacking France instead... for now, I redeclare war on France, confident in my spears on my land and boats defending the sea passages... hopefully that will slow them. I also start to send dromons to slow them down. I fear no one but France.
Well grr!
I accidentally triggered my Golden Age JUST after I started my 8 turn anarchy into Monarchy.
Of course, this is when France whips by in a boat and starts attacking me. One France veteran warrior beat three of my veteran spears
And things didn't look so good, I didn't appear to have saltpeter near either...
Anywho, I've started looking for a new game to play out, kinda the tedious part.
At least I know how to play this now, I just need another good start >.<
This is harder than it sounds because I need:
--To be on my own island
--This island must be of a good size, not tiny (this is hard to get on a small map 80% archipelago)
--This island must have at least one luxury
--The start must have a good mix of food and shields near where I found my first city, for my 'core'. Only the first 5 cities or so are decently productive on Sid small, so this core must have good terrain, you see If not for the unit support I need, I'd be doing a 5CC also
--I have to get the Great Library (AW)
--None of the AI can be on an island that is extremely close to me AKA one or two coastal titles... this is too close for comfort. With 4 AIs out there, this is rather tough to get.
Mapfinder is hard at work though.
I accidentally triggered my Golden Age JUST after I started my 8 turn anarchy into Monarchy.
Of course, this is when France whips by in a boat and starts attacking me. One France veteran warrior beat three of my veteran spears
And things didn't look so good, I didn't appear to have saltpeter near either...
Anywho, I've started looking for a new game to play out, kinda the tedious part.
At least I know how to play this now, I just need another good start >.<
This is harder than it sounds because I need:
--To be on my own island
--This island must be of a good size, not tiny (this is hard to get on a small map 80% archipelago)
--This island must have at least one luxury
--The start must have a good mix of food and shields near where I found my first city, for my 'core'. Only the first 5 cities or so are decently productive on Sid small, so this core must have good terrain, you see
If not for the unit support I need, I'd be doing a 5CC also --I have to get the Great Library (AW)
--None of the AI can be on an island that is extremely close to me AKA one or two coastal titles... this is too close for comfort. With 4 AIs out there, this is rather tough to get.
Mapfinder is hard at work though.
AutomatedTeller
Frequent poster
why are you playing with 4 AI? Why not with just 3?
Bravo to whoever thought of this one, it's pure evil. I have to actually beat down all the AIs, no hiding away and getting a diplo victory 
After more tries with Byz/France on Archipelago, I am currently gunning for a Small/Pangaea/Egypt game...
I had better hurry the heck up and decide, time ticks away
After more tries with Byz/France on Archipelago, I am currently gunning for a Small/Pangaea/Egypt game...
I had better hurry the heck up and decide, time ticks away
AutomatedTeller
Frequent poster
I don't know that it's a problem that an AI gets to settle all the other islands and becomes *strong*
You could also think of it as providing cannon fodder for your elites to train leaders for armies
Invading a Sid homeland is very tough without armies - the AI won't attack an army, but throw it's 100's of units at a stack of muskets/rifles/infantry and fairly easily wipe it out.
You could also think of it as providing cannon fodder for your elites to train leaders for armies
Invading a Sid homeland is very tough without armies - the AI won't attack an army, but throw it's 100's of units at a stack of muskets/rifles/infantry and fairly easily wipe it out.
Yeah, I noticed that.
One time, I had this great start, I got tons of gold, settled my island, etc.
I had SEVEN, yes SEVEN luxuries, as well as horses, and two irons on my little chunk of land which was also fertile.
One problem.... the AIs got boats and they all became hellbent on capturing my capital. America managed it, I took it back, then America tried again, then Japan did it....
What a mess.
I never seen a Sid AI so determined to get at something. They were getting quite a sum of GPT from me, and they still broke the deals. Heck, they were all 'polite'.
One time, I had this great start, I got tons of gold, settled my island, etc.
I had SEVEN, yes SEVEN luxuries, as well as horses, and two irons on my little chunk of land which was also fertile.
One problem.... the AIs got boats and they all became hellbent on capturing my capital. America managed it, I took it back, then America tried again, then Japan did it....
What a mess.
I never seen a Sid AI so determined to get at something. They were getting quite a sum of GPT from me, and they still broke the deals. Heck, they were all 'polite'.
AutomatedTeller
Frequent poster
that's because you had luxuries and iron and you show up as weak compared to them. Fortunately, the AI sucks at invasions...
Really, no way to deal with it except to welcome it and use the opportunity to build elites/leaders/armies
Really, no way to deal with it except to welcome it and use the opportunity to build elites/leaders/armies
I often find that they are particularly keen to start wars for sites that have resources such as uranium. They'll start in the AA and then you know that something good is going to pop up later in the game. Of course they then become predictable in where they are going to land so it just becomes a test of whether you can cope with the numbers that they can throw at you.
Good luck to both of you BTW.
Good luck to both of you BTW.
I've been reading this with intrest, and my conclusion is this is way over my ability and I'm not even going to start. Just reading your posts about hundreds of units scares me off. Demigod is it for me, I managed to sneak one out on deity but I haven't been able to duplicate it.
AutomatedTeller
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oh, you gotta!! at least to see what happens. I mean, watching a Sid AI expand is pretty amazing. There is nothing quite like watching an AI plop a city down next to your capital as you start building a warrior and have it pop out a settler before your warrior gets built Granted, if you are on an arch map, you are dead 10 turns later as the the 20 odd warriors they start with overwhelm you, but...
Granted, if you are on an arch map, you are dead 10 turns later as the the 20 odd warriors they start with overwhelm you, but...Sorry guys, I don't have enough time to play this gauntlet what with trying to get another huge milk run going, as well as my work on the various games for Quartermasters. To do this (a Sid game) would take up all my time due to the timely invasions of Sid AI, even on a small map.
Good luck to anyone still going for it.
-Elear
Good luck to anyone still going for it.
-Elear
killercane
Deity
I thought I would give this one a go. Here is a screenshot at 2190 BC. There are 46 AI units (3 of those are settlers). They are all at war with me .
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azzaman333
meh
I thought I would give this one a go. Here is a screenshot at 2190 BC. There are 46 AI units (3 of those are settlers). They are all at war with me
They dont seem to like you very much.
You may be alone. I keep Sid in the rotation just as much as the other levels, but for some reason it doesn't usually generate many entries.
Maybe because players like me can't handle the crazy sid ai.
AutomatedTeller
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Have been having a hard time on this one. Tried as Romans (figured that with 20 or so legionairries, I don't need to wait till mustkets - once I get ironworking, I can just upgrade warriors, build a stack of galleys and drop in on my closest neighbor
Also tried as the iroquois, like SirPleb.
None of the games got very far, I fear
As it turns out, 20K on Sid may be an easier game than this, at least for us peaceful builder types...
Also tried as the iroquois, like SirPleb.
None of the games got very far, I fear
As it turns out, 20K on Sid may be an easier game than this, at least for us peaceful builder types...
AutomatedTeller
Frequent poster
I may have a game... Going as (drumroll) THE DUTCH!! Dutch are a good civ for what I'm doing, which is 80% water arch map, trying to slow down the AI as much as possible. If I was smart, I would have tried a cold, arid land and hope I had the only fresh water.
Playing against Shaka, Japan and the Mongols. Shaka has nearly taken out the Japanese, and the Mongols are trying to take me, but the AI still can't do invasions...
As you can see, I have the GLib almost done. I ended up buying warrior code from shaka - I wish I had bought from Japan, but I suspect shaka would have got it eventually anyway. I had to buy it, cause Temujin was going to attack - he always does, it seems.
I have some hope, if i can keep shaka from taking over the world. Hopefully, he and Temujin decide to beat each other up for awhile.
Building some spears to upgrade to Mercs will help. Course, I have to have iron for that to help. Having iron and horses would be key - then, I could make some invasions with knights and hopefully get some leaders for armies later....
Playing against Shaka, Japan and the Mongols. Shaka has nearly taken out the Japanese, and the Mongols are trying to take me, but the AI still can't do invasions...
As you can see, I have the GLib almost done. I ended up buying warrior code from shaka - I wish I had bought from Japan, but I suspect shaka would have got it eventually anyway. I had to buy it, cause Temujin was going to attack - he always does, it seems.
I have some hope, if i can keep shaka from taking over the world. Hopefully, he and Temujin decide to beat each other up for awhile.
Building some spears to upgrade to Mercs will help. Course, I have to have iron for that to help. Having iron and horses would be key - then, I could make some invasions with knights and hopefully get some leaders for armies later....
