Gold per turn

[Case580]

I was reading a post that suggest a way to cripple the AI research abilities. It says to trade luxuries and tech for gpt. I play in monarch lvl (which I have yet to win) and it is impossible to get any gpt. I could ask for 60 gold, lump sum and the civ would accept. I then ask for only 1 gpt and no lump sum, they say they will never accept such a deal. Isnt gpt based on 20 turns, if so thats only 20 gold!! this seems to only happen in the first 2 ages....after that i can get gpt....anybody???

 

[AlanH]

"They will never accept such a deal" means either the AI civ has no spare gold per turn to spend or you have broken a 20-turn promise in the past and your reputation is shot to pieces.

In the early stages the AI civs spend all their spare gpt on research, so they will very rarely give you gpt.

Note also that 1 gpt is worth a bit less than a 20 gold lump sum, as the AI factors in an interest rate which caters for the possibility that the per turn deal might fail.

 

[Beanzy]

Usually, you really won't get any GPT until the Industrial Age, but around that era, you can start getting pretty good deals. That's the best time to cripple AI economy. Of course, another way to do it is to be the first to get contact with another continent and then sell contacts for lump sums. Eventually, you can bankrupt every civ this way (not including however much they make per turn).

 

[steviejay]

what I do is reasearch a tech that they won't go for (two that spring to mind is Atomic Theory and Sanitation, there might be others that I can't remember) the ask them "what will you give me for this", usually they'll part with any available techs they have as well as a huge amout of GPT. I'm on Regent at the moment and I've just got Replacable Parts and I'm on 100% science and getting about 500gpt

 

[elpadrino87]

I also do what steviejay said. I offer a civ a tech and ask them what they'd give me for it. But before I accept, I hit "Would you care to hear my counter-proposal?" and see what my foreign advisor says. If he says "They will never accept this deal, I clear their offer and ask again what they'll offer for my tech, and accept(assuming its a nice sum of gpt). If the advisor says that "this deal will probably be acceptable", then I increase the gpt they offer until the highest the AI is willing to go.

 

[steviejay]

I sometimes do that. it really depends on if I want to push the Civ's to the extreme or frankly if I can be bothered haggling. 9 times out of 10 I'll just take what they offer, but if I don't like them I'll push for more

 

[Mishrack]

Mwehey, in my latest game I just finished - huge 6 civ - I was recieving about 900 gpt from the AI for luxuries and techs

They paid from my entire army and upkeep and everything else, leaving me with a total income of about 1400 gpt, and an ever growing army which ltimately destroyed them all.

Ye gotta love being the tech broker...