GOTM 11 First Spoiler: Progress to 500 AD

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GOTM 11 First Spoiler



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How did the early game proceed for you? Did you establish a foothold? Did you keep-out the raging barbs and aggressive AI?
 
Thank you ainwood for a very challenging GOTM this month, 3 militaristic neighbors and limited resources are making this one a lot of fun!

I also like the normal (vs. epic) speed. I have had a lot of trouble finishing the last 2 GOTMS, but I'm on track to submit this one thanks to the faster speed setting.

I beelined to archery and didn't have much trouble with the barbs, but I concentrated on defense and fog-busting early. The chokepoints in the highlands terrain really help, too. I have never played this map type before, but I like it!

Personally, I am coming out of my little corner of the world swinging. My first target is Germany. The pyramids have been built in Berlin, so I am salivating over taking them and switching to police state. Of course I have only horse archers and catapults to make this happen!

AI aggression is tough, but I have switched to Buddhism (Monty's religion) so he is more friendly to me now and I have been able to make a few tech trades. I have also bribed Monty and Napoleon with one of my two clams so that helps relations with them.
 
My goal this game was fast domination with cannons.

I actually found our start location to be extremely easy to deal with the barbarians. With the strip of land to our east, the border to the west, the coast to the south and the mountains to the north I really didn't have to deal with many barbarians at all. I likely could have fought them off with warriors, let alone archers.

My warrior spotted Napoleon's borders fairly early (3520BC) and stole his worker. After stealing his worker Napoleon sent an archer out of the blackness to kill my warrior, though. Then the worker got killed by a wolf on his way back to my city, so it wasn't very effective. It did slow Napoleon down a little, though. He wouldn't make peace for a long time (until 300BC) when I had increased my power rating a bit.

I researched archery early (expecting more problems with barbs) and then did the Oracle slingshot in 1120BC. I founded and converted to Confucianism as well. I then went on to pick up Sailing and Animal Husbandry for their obvious benefits before grabbing Construction in 350BC. Catapults and archers would be my first army.

I expanded very slowly. There really weren't a lot of great city locations nearby and I wanted to get my military rolling early. I missed the rice to the east with my scouting and I figured Napoleon would get to the cow first. But then when I researched Iron Working (275BC) I saw the only iron source was out there by the cows as well. I still wasn't sure I'd bother settling there but I sent an archer out to investigate anyway. The archer then spotted the rice and I rushed out a settler as quickly as I could and settled it. I guess Napoleon settled all his early cities to the north and east. Including that one I only settled 4 cities total.

Bismarck got off to an insane start (had 4 cities when Napoleon and Monte still only had 2) and he built the Pyramids, the Great Lighthouse and the Parthenon all in Berlin. So he became my obvious first war target. By the time I had amassed a catapult/archer army Bismarck still only had 4 cities so I figured he was hemmed in up there, but he was still my target because of the wonders. His southernmost city had a worker building a winery and I didn't have Monarchy so I politely let the worker finish building it before declaring war so I could reap the benefits of it (I wasn't sure it would work without monarchy, but it turns out it does). By the time this spoiler ends I had captured his two southernmost cities and I was marching my catapults on Berlin.

edit: One more thing, I decided not to research Alphabet this game to keep the tech pace slower. We'll see how that turns out in my later spoilers.

Technologies:
3720BC – Mining
3480BC – Hunting
3240BC – Archery
2920BC – The Wheel
2640BC – Pottery
2240BC – Writing
2080BC – Mysticism
1840BC – Meditation
1720BC – Priesthood
1120BC – Code of Laws (Confucianism in New York)
1080BC – Civil Service
925BC – Bronze Working
850BC – Animal Husbandry
750BC – Sailing
550BC – Mathematics
525BC – Masonry
350BC – Construction
275BC – Iron Working
75BC – Metal Casting
225AD – Machinery
375AD – Currency

Wonders:
1120BC – Oracle (America)
1120BC – Stonehenge (other civ)
625BC – Pyramids (German)
200BC – Great Lighthouse (German)
100BC – The Kathi Vishwanath (other civ)
100AD – The Parthenon (German)
275AD – The Kong Miao (American)

Civics/Religions:
1080BC - Confucianism
1040BC – Bureaucracy
675BC – Slavery

Cities:
4000BC - Washington founded in place
1760BC – New York founded (by gold/pigs)
775BC – Boston founded (on strip by coast/lakes/grass hills)
100AD – Philadelphia founded (rice, iron, cows)
325AD – Cologne captured (coastal, wine)
450AD – Hamburg captured (coastal, crabs, whale)

Great People:
225AD – Prophet (shrine)

Contacts:
3520BC – Napoleon
2400BC – Bismarck
2000BC – Montezuma

No other contacts at 500AD.

 
Well this is going rather badly. I settled in place and started workboat, worker. Mining first, then I decided the map would restrict barbs enough that I could squeeze AH in before archery. Seeing the horse, I decided to skip archery, hoping I could get a couple of chariots up fast enough.

In the meantime, I wanted to try my hand at a specialist economy. I started on the Pyramids in Washington, hoping that the barbs would slow down the AIs enough, combined with my industrial trait. The barbs showed up when I had one chariot plus several warriors. Thanks to a bad die roll, I wasn't able to defend the pasture, so it took a while for them to kill themselves on my cities. Meanwhile my mines got pillaged. And that's how I got beat to the Pyramids by 6 turns. But hey, 370 wasted hammers in the early game ain't so bad, is it?

Bismark adopted Representation the following turn, so I guess I know who I have to kill. I did get the Oracle, choosing Philosophy (still planning a SE, I wanted Pacifism). I had finished CoL the same turn, so it was eventful: I discovered two techs, founded two religions (both in NY), completed a wonder, and entered the medieval era all at the same time. Then alphabet, literature, and start on the Great Library. I got beat to that one by 2 turns. Grr.

And here's where it gets ugly. Bismark founded a city on a hill near the wine, put 6 archers plus a few spears in it, then declared on me. Boston was cut off (wine and pigs), and he eventually stormed it with axes. I have no metal (the iron to the E was claimed, and the copper to SE is guarded by a barb city), so my only recourse is cats. I got to construction and built a stack of them. By which time those 6 archers were upgraded to longbows. Need more cats.

I think I can fight my way out of this, but it's going to be ugly and slow. I 'spect I'll be behind in the tech-race by the time I finally put Bismark to the sword. Strategically, it might actually make more sense to aim in another direction, but I have become filled with hatred beyond rationality. Besides, he has few other directions to go, so he'd be back after me soon enough. Better to settle this score now.

I think I can still win this game, but I'm certainly out of contention for any awards. I hope y'all are doing better.

peace,
lilnev
 
I went into this GOTM shooting for a Domination victory. All the land on this map should make for some high scores, although I expected that the rough terrain of highlands could make for some slow going. From my test games, I wasn't too worried about the raging barbs setting. With water to the south and a map edge to the west, there was a limited number of directions barbs could come from, and it should be easy to find forest hills to put warriors on. For early fogbusting, I think quantity is better than quality. So my plan was to ignore archery and think ahead to finding some metal and building a few key wonders. I wanted Oracle, Pyramids, and Great Library.

I settled in place because of the high food potential and three mineable hills. I wanted Washington to be a specialist city and didn't really care whether I was missing out on some land to the west. I started with two workboats and a worker and my first techs were Mining and BW. I wanted the chopping and whipping option for building the wonders and being able to whip some emergency warriors if the barbs got scary. Not surprisingly, there was no copper nearby. I considered going for IW immediately but decided to head down the tech path to Priesthood and CoL.

I built three cities pre-500AD, and ended up getting the Oracle (took CS), the Pyramids, and the Parthenon (with a GE). At 500AD, I was three turns from the Great Library. Washington was shaping up as a big science/specialist city as planned, and my other three cities were producing chariots and later cats. I went to war with Bismark in the north after building 8 chariots, capturing Munich in 275AD. An inspection of Berlin revealed too many archers to take with chariots, and iron was far to the east and controlled by Napolean. So I made peace with Bismark and started building cats. I decided the best way to get the iron for my macemen would be to go for the GA from Music and culture bomb a new city placed near the iron.

Everything seems to be going smoothly. The barbs were never much of a problem with fog-busting and three close neighbors. Most of the AI are pissed off at me, so tech trading hasn't gone too well. I'll have to use extortion instead. I'm hoping to take out Bismark, Napolean, and Monty with mostly cats and macemen and then shoot for cavalry to finish the rest of the game.

My techs and dates:

mining (3720BC)
BW (3160BC)
mysticism (2920BC)
polytheism (2560BC)
preisthood (2320BC)
writing (1920BC)
masonry (1720BC)
CoL (925BC)
civil service (900BC) from Oracle
wheel (800BC)
animal husbandry (650BC)
pottery (575BC)
iron working (450BC)
hunting (425BC)
archery (400BC)
metal casting (175BC)
monotheism (125BC)
alphabet (1AD)
literature (100AD)
sailing (125AD) from trade
math (125AD) from trade
construction (275AD)
 
This must be the slowest game ever. Everyone hates me except Bismarck, so not much tech trading. But the AI is also not trading a lot, so I'm ahead, together with someone I cant mention yet.

I founded Washington 2NE, not great but eventually worked ok. I start building the workboat while I grow my capital to size 2, and take the risk to go for Mystics, Meditation and actually found Buddhism. Hinduism was already founded by the AI earlier. I build New York to the North on the Hills to cut off Bismarck. He has the Parthenon and was going to be my first target, as I expected him to hate me for keeping him in prison. But he converted to my religion and was peacefully sitting there and didnt know anyone but Nappi as of 500AD, and for another 1000 years. This helped keeping the tech race in my favor as I had met all but one Civ by 1840 BC.

Forgot to convert to my own religion and miss out on the happyness bonus until 200 BC, this happens when playing at 3 a.m. I guess. Get MC from the Oracle and build the Mahabodhi and the Colossus. I discover machinery but still lack the Iron, Nappi has built there already.

Much cursing around 400 AD as the Parthenon, the Great Lib & the Great LH are built by the AI. Probably better this way as I need to build an Army, not pretty bus useless wonders.

At 500 AD I'm #2 in score and first in culture. But many many hours away from Conquering this world.
 
What I found particulary interesting about the start was city placement. The basic inclination is, of course, to go east and north. But the issue presented was how to work the gold. After puzzling about this, I decided to put New York to the west, one square west of where the horses turned to be (I didn't now it at the time). Then I could work the corn and have enough food to quickly work both gold hills. It also left another city location to the west to work the pigs and hills. I think it worked well; interested whether anyone else did this.

I followed the probably typical research path of Mining, Hunting, Archery and the build of workboat, worker, workboat with no barb or AI problems.
 
I settled in place and built a workboat and then a worker. Washington is being developed as a GP and wonder farm that is capable of decent production because of the hills. I found that I couldn't really get to the copper, but I founded my third city between the iron and the rice. I immediately started spamming swordsmen and a couple axes. I had a coast road leading from Washington the to the iron (New York) with one other city (Boston) in between. There was an open space on the road and Bismarck settled there and cancelled our open borders, splitting my empire!

I had a stack of swordsman nearby so I destroyed his newly settled city and proceeded to take a city that he founded to the north of Washington, next to the two gold hills. This will probably be my unit producing city when it develops a little. I then took the city with the wine near it. My goal is to continue north and wipe Bismarck out, which I'll do when I have a better stack of cats. I am also building units in the east because Napolen and Monty are creeping closer and my iron producing city will need to protected.

I did research Alphabet and managed to do a fair bit of tech trading. I traded a lot with monty, who is pleased, but I'm sure that won't last.
 
Went workboat, workboat, then a bunch of archers. In retrospect, the second workboat was overkill since I maxed population well before I was ready to whip...

Archers dealt with the Barbs effectively, and I founded 4 cities on my little penincula before heading towards Bismark. War declared around 200 AD, and by 500 AD he was in trouble. He still has a few cities, but is no longer a factor in the game.

Nappy has already declared war a couple of times. Each time sending in a small raiding party, smaching it into a well defended city on a hill, and then stweing for 10 turns before granting peace.
 
I was playing the bronze-working-copper-no-archers gambit, so I chuckled when there wasn't any copper nearby. Not like GOTM10! :) Instead of settling back to archery or horses, I bravely said, well, there must be iron somewhere nearby, right? And pushed on to iron working.

This nearly worked perfectly, settled New York next to the iron, but in an unlucky battle a barb warrior wiped out New York before I could build an axe. :(

No matter! I popped out another settler and Boston became my iron city. This was a close thing and probably too rash, with barb axemen wandering about, but I managed it and since then things have gone well.

My whimsical idea of a game of peace-until-Navy-Seals was rapidly changed when Bismarck expanded so rapidly and built the Pyramids. Instead, my game is now about war-war-war (sorry Bismarck!), and Monty is my best friend.

Successes:
Built Oracle and Parthenon early on. Used the Oracle for Metal Casting and the first prophet for Civil Service. That has kept me even or slightly ahead in techs, and the AIs are about to fear my maces.

Going for a heavy bureaucracy approach at the moment - will probably build wonders and Natl Epic in Washington instead of spreading them around. Unless a good GP farm comes into view.

Still haven't built an archer at 500 AD! ;)

I like the presence of other industrious leaders - tough to bag all the wonders I expected. Interesting game, Ainwood!
 
Founded in place and started a workboat. Probably a common tactic. And, this being raging barbs and with limited initial map knowledge, did Hunting-Archery out of the blocks.

Budd FIDL in 3680 (almost expected Spain to be in the game) and then Hinduism FIDL in 3600 (but knew Ghandi wouldn't be here...must be someone else)?

Bismark appeared out of the fog in 2920 and Napoleon shortly after in 2840. I hate Napoleon...I find him very unpredictable (until Bismark, where you always kinda know where you stand).

After BW I realize NO BRONZE...so AH? And yes, we have Horses. I try to hook them up quickly.

About 1960 I spot the familiar green border of Monty to my south across the ocean. Oh, we'll be fighting soon!

About my city placement. After burning off the fog in the immediately area of Washington, I debated for some time about whether to found my second city up between the gold and the pigs or off to the west between the gold and wheat (which turned out to be in a bad spot). Eventually I settled on Pigs/Gold placement. With my third settler, and after spotting the Iron waaaay off to the east, I decided to send a party out there. Bad luck here. I sent an archer out first to burn some fog and reserve a spot, but he lost on flat ground to a barb warrier at 92.7% odds of winning!!!!!:mad: That was crucial, because I then had to sttop my settler and wait for backup. In the meantime, quite literally seconds before I finally arrived on scene, Napoleon planted a city to claim the iron after an expansion?!?!?:mad: :mad: What to do?

I settled my third city on the little hill two away from the iron and hoped that I could somehow "culture" the iron away from him, which was a very long battle that I eventually......... (sorry, have to wait for another spoiler).:mad: :mad: :mad:

I then backfilled with a fourth city on the narrow strip of land just to the east of Wash (looks like a common spot) and started that as a production city. So, I start with just Horses and riders...with my AGG neighbours all metalheads. Should be a challenge!

Complete Aplhpabet in 100BC and trade a bit. Bismark appears to be both advanced, very strong and (thank goodness) my buddy! So Napoleon will be a target and, with Monty in the game, either he'll be my target eventually or I his?!?

While scouting far to the SE I spot a barb city with COPPER! I set out immediately with a modest SoD (more lack a Stack of Persuasion) with 3HA-1Chariot-1Archer to see if I can score metal. I take the city, but (and I'm just guessing now) because I do get the copper, I am immediately faced with Axes outside "Libyan".:eek: And for the next several decades, I would be fighting long and hard with my first really "raging" barbs down there. Needless to say I was extended with a city far to the SE, even with copper, and had to run HA's down there regularly to hold back the Axes, which is only a semi-fair fight. I suffered a bit, both militarily and economically because of it. We'll see if that was a good decision at the time?!?

At 500AD exactly, I spawn a Great Scientist and save for the time being.

Very interesting start...not really raging barbs, because of the lay of the land, but not much in the way of "power" resources either.
 
Hi All,

When I go to try to look at Shillen's maps, (on ImageShack), my Spyware Doctor automatically blocks access.

1. Is ImageShack safe (is this just a false positive)?

2. Is there a way to make this an accepted site in SD? Perhaps I can if I register the version (haven't gotten around to that after the download of the free variant).

Appreciate any assistance provided

dV
 
First GOTM and first post. Firstly thanks for running these, really enjoyed it and a big hello to everbody. Well settled in place went for mining bw (no bronze) then Ah. Yipee at least I've got some horses then pottery. I'd met Biz and Monte by 2360 but didnt explore enough in the whole game.

By 800 BC I had the mighty empire of 2 cities, NY (built in 2200 BC) being settled east of the 2 gold hills. I did have a lot of chariots which were about to pay Monte a visit. In hindsight probably better to have gone for Bismarck but I don't like having Monte near me (even with the sea to cross). New techs learnt med, writing, alphabet and sailing with 1 turn to priesthood hoping for late Oracle but that was built 1 turn before.

No problems with Barbs had killed 7 warriors and 11 archers by 800 BC the little bit of forest to the East made a good choke point and I only saw one from the North.

I finished the game on the first day so I'm having to rely on the few saves I made to put in the detail :). Probably me but how do you send your save game in?

Next save was in AD25. Had met Nap by now. Had learnt IW and Monarchy, no iron either so learnt hbr as well. My empire had doubled in size by now with the great American cities of Tenochitlan and Tlatelolco being added. Charitos are fine for attacking cities as long as you have enough of them and they don't have spears. Had built 21 and lost 9 so more than enough left to take his last 2 cities. One I razed the other was the Jewish holy city but was only size 1 so I waited to take that. By 500 AD it was still size 1 !! Perhaps the do not grow button was on :).

Next save was in 300 AD. I had just finished my 2nd wonder the GL was built in Washington, Stonehenge having built in 1560BC. Still no access to metal though. The copper down near Monte which I couldn't get at and the iron to the East. Earlier Nap had built a city near the iron but must have lost it to the barbs as the next time I looked there was a barb city there. So started building a road towards my next city. At least I would get some use out of my horse archers. Even though I only had 4 cities I was first in GNP and pop and in the lead score and tech wise (from the civs I'd met). Relations wise Biz was cautious with me, Nap annoyed and Monte furious (I wonder why). Had ob with Biz the whole game, Nap for a very short time till he ended it. All the other civs which I can't mention bar one wouldn't have ob with me either. Perhaps that was why I had a tech lead for most of the game because they wouldn't trade with each other?

Next save was in 660 AD. So I'd better stop here.
 
I'm not sure if there's any spyware. I know the first time you view an image it will give you a popup window (that neither IE nor firefox manage to block) but after that it doesn't give any popups. This is the first time I used imageshack since there was a message from Thunderfall that we should use imageshack instead of civfanatics upload to save space on the server.

I'm sure there has to be an option in SD to ignore it, but I'm not really familiar with that software.
 
Standard (not HOF) mod. Going for domination.

Settle in place. Build workboat -> worker -> workboat -> archer -> settler interrupted for archer. We wanted a second city before building the Oracle, and so founded New York north by the gold in 1680BC.

~2120BC 3 barb units near our capitol are pillaging and threatening our game. The odds of surviving are grossly in our favor though, and we do. After this one scare the barbs don't cause us much trouble. A little later our woodsman warrior successfully defended against a barb archer and finished with a strength of 0.0! So uh, the last 4/100 hit points get rounded down?

Early research was Hunting, Archery, Mining, Animal Husbandry, then to Priesthood and Code of Laws. The Oracle build wasn't expertly executed, but we still had a successful CS slingshot at 900BC. We studied Bronze Working next, then HBR and Alphabet for a brief trading window.

By this point we noticed Bismarck was expanding fast and competing with us for land. In 300BC our first Horse Archers appeared. We waited until a winery was finished in 100AD to attack, then slowly conquered northward. As of 500AD we're at the gates of Berlin with a nice stack of cats and HA's. I need to be more aggressive and less concerned with early casualties if I ever want to win a domination award... but with the copper and all that land we'll be in a solid position. We haven't explored much outside the start area, and we still don't know where some of these civs are.

The other AI doesn't like us, but the war with Germany was the only fighting up to the end of the spoiler period. We wasted some time in anarchy only to find out the AI won't trade with us even without a state religion, and we converted back right away

I'm jealous of games where Bismarck built the Pyramids. In mine they're in a far-off land. He was nice enough to build the Great Lighthouse in Berlin though, and at 500AD we've just learned Metal Casting to start the Colossus. We've also just completed the Kong Miao in New York, Confucianism is spreading... things are going well, though I feel that we could/should have conquered a lot more land by this point.

ps Welcome Sleepless!
 
Goal: Conquest

After losing both GOTM9 and GOTM10, I was happy to get back to the more reasonable difficulty level of Monarch for this GOTM. After a couple of practice games with Raging Barbarians, I concluded that hooking up Copper or Iron was essential early. I felt that having Slavery for whipping was also important in a pinch when the Barbarians were closing in, thus I researched Mining and BW first. I founded Washington in place and produced a worker first, and started mining the hills. The workboats came later. After searching and finding no copper close, I did pick up Archery before researching Wheel and Iron Working. With all aggressive AI, I didn’t figure that getting Alphabet early would be that helpful, because the AI would be less likely to trade with me.

My first builds were: Worker, Warrior, Work Boat, Warrior, Work Boat

I had to whip some warriors and archers to fend off the barbarians. That’s where having the 2 clams really helped out by replenishing the population (and they couldn’t be plundered). The barbs destroyed some mines, but overall they probably hurt the AI more than they hurt me. I did no worker stealing in this game. I had no spare units running around, considering the numbers of barbarians coming at me.

New York was founded in 1760 BC, nestled up against western mountains getting the wheat and both golds. This location proved to be an adequate production city during the whole game.

After finding the Iron 10E of Washington, I sent a settler there. Then the French built a city 2 east of the Iron, so I built Boston 575 BC, 1W of the iron. The French cultural borders expanded to include the Iron, and their worker built a mine there, but after I built an Obelisk and whipped a Library, the mined Iron reverted to me, and I was in business.

In 750BC Monty spread Buddhism to me, and I converted. That made Monty very friendly with me for a long time, and a very willing (though unlikely) trading partner. I was ahead of Monty in Tech by the time I discovered Alphabet, and after several trades with him, he became my strongest rival, though friendly. It helped that we had a small sea separating us, so that no cultural borders touched. Monty did demand one of my Clams from me, and I gave it to him, so after that we had a very cozy relationship.

Meanwhile, my neighbor to the north, Germany, began building wonder after wonder. Berlin built The Pyramids in 750BC, Colossus in 150BC, The Parthenon in 200AD, and Great Lighthouse in 450AD. At 500AD, the Germans and especially Berlin would become my first target for expansion after my maces come in.

The only early wonder I built was The Oracle, in New York in 1AD, coinciding with Code of Laws, and then taking Civil Service. The CS slingshot was very helpful for getting ahead and staying ahead in techs, as well as getting maces and cats early enough for some expansion. I also switched to Bureaucracy after getting CS. I built only one cottage around Washington, and none anywhere else. I farmed everything I could.

I built my 4th city, Philadelphia in 375 AD, in between Boston and Washington, south of the mountain, 1W of lake, in range of pigs. The four were all the cities I built in the early going.

Research path:
Mining-BW
AH-Writing
Hunting-Archery
Wheel-Iron Working
Mysticism-Sailing
Alphabet
Meditation-Priesthood-Code of Laws
Civil Service (with Oracle 1AD)
Pottery-Polytheism
Masonry-Metal Casting
Math-Compass
At 500AD, 1 turn away from Machinery

No wars yet.
 
When I started the game I was only vaguely aware of the settings, and I somewhat forgot that the barbarians were set to Raging. So when an Archer showed up next to my capital, which was defended by one Warrior, I was a bit worried.

Then a neverending stream of Archers came over the eastern landroute, which slowed my progress as I hadn't researched Hunting yet and couldn't improver my lands around the capital. Some time later I sent a few Horse Archers and a catapult to capture the barbarian city, but a few turns before I knocked the cultural defense down Napoleon declared war on me and threatened my third city founded between the mountains and the ocean, to the east of the starting location, next to the 1-square lake. I had to pull my forces away from the barbarian city to fend the French forces off, and we started fighting a long, terrible war.

I had fairly good productivity going, and some forces to spare, but so did Nappy. When his first Swordsman showed up I pillaged the Iron mine he had, and luckily that was successful as no more Swordsmen showed up. For the next 500 years or so we fought a bloody war, both of us limited to Horse Archers and Archers, with me using the occasional Catapult as well. We continually killed eachothers invasion forces because neither of us had stronger units and we seemed to have about the same productivity. He also didn't want peace. It ended when a German Crossbowman entered the battlefield and I had the idea of bribing Germany to join the fight. I don't know what damage he did, but shortly after I managed to capture the French city with the Iron resource and used a culture bomb to insta-expand my borders there. I'm going to build some city improvements, capture the Barbarian city (it has two Silk and is in a good location), and then I'll see if I can finish off Napoleon.

Domestically I managed to get the Great Library built in Washington, and it now produces Great People at a nice pace, as well as providing lots of science. I have adopted Buddism, which Montezuma founded, and have a very good relationship with him.
 
I like highland maps, so I was looking forward to this GoTM since it was announced. I figured that since this is Monarch, I may as well go for the handicap and downloaded the Challenger start. One extra tech for the AI doesn't sound like a game breaker, since I usually play Emperor in my SP games.

I decided to settle in place, and started a workboat.

Research path would be hunting, archery, mining, bronzeworking.

Pretty non descript start. New York was founded in 2040 BC (or possibly 2840BC, my notes aren't all that clear!) 1N of the horses, where it can work both gold tiles.

1640BC Stonehenge is completed in Washington.

1160BC Start Oracle in Washington.

1000BC I had a hard time deciding on where to put my 3rd city, eventually I settled 1W of the wine, where my borders would pop and cut off the Germans. I hadn't fully explored to the east of there at this point, but I figured I could possibly tie Bismark up.

975BC Start researching Alphabet

875BC Oracle done in DC, take Code of Laws. With 2 wonders putting out Great Prophet points, the plan is to lightbulb Civil Service with a great prophet.

500BC Great Prophet arrives. 3 turns left to research Civil Service, which I switch to once research is completed.

I trade Writing to Bismark for Sailing and Meditation and Priesthood to Monty for Masonry. Everyone is nice and friendly on this end of the map. Monty becomes my Confucian buddy and bestest friend ever.

125 AD Great Library is built in Washington. Industrious is a great trait when you've got a tech lead!

150 AD Philly is founded east of Boston. It will be able to work the wheat and pigs and the plains hills that overlap with Boston's fat cross that Boston doesn't have enough food for anyway. Philly will be a crappy city in the modern era, but 2 food sources and four mines will be pretty good for now, and I decide it will be my Heroic Epic city.

Plus, with Philly built, once its borders pop the only fog of war will be along the thin strip to the east of Washington and the Barbs threat to the homeland is ended completely. Overall all, I had pretty good luck with my archers defending against several barb axemen.

Here's a pretty picture:
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Berlin has the Pyramids, the Great Lighthouse, and the Parthenon, and Bismark hasn't hooked up any metals yet! Since I don't have iron or bronze either, it's time for collateral carnage! Time to let the Cats out.

425AD I discover Music and get the free Great Artist, but more importantly, my Chariot scouting out Germany sees something very disturbing:
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Munich has popped it's borders and is only 2 turns away from roading up the copper mine. I'm not quite ready to bring my stack north to Germany yet, but declare war now anyway. My chariot takes the German worker, pillages the copper mine and backs up a bit, keeping an eye out to make sure the Germans don't send more workers.

This bodes ill for the Germans, since their capital is only defended by archers:
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At this point in the game, I've managed to build a solid core of three very productive cities and Boston, which blocked German expansion. Germany should not survive my stack of catapults and I'm expecting to pick up three very useful wonders. (With bureacracy running in Washington, the extra traderoutes for the Great Lighthouse will do as much or more than the extra beakers for Representation, but the nice thing is that the Germans will be providing them both!) I've put myself in a good position by scouting the Germans, finding their strategic resources and researching Construction, which gives me a unit he simply can't compete with.

I still haven't met anyone but Monty, Napoleon and Bismark, but I'm good friends with Monty and far enough from Napoleon that he has better things to do than mess with me.

I'm teching along pretty well, and things are looking up for the Americans.
 
Shillen said:
I'm not sure if there's any spyware. I know the first time you view an image it will give you a popup window (that neither IE nor firefox manage to block) but after that it doesn't give any popups. This is the first time I used imageshack since there was a message from Thunderfall that we should use imageshack instead of civfanatics upload to save space on the server.

I'm sure there has to be an option in SD to ignore it, but I'm not really familiar with that software.

Hi Shillen,

Since this discussion is somewhat off topic for this thread, I have opened a new one with some additional details (its here in the GOTM section, but maybe it belongs somewhere else?).

(Edit: AlanH moved it to Forums>CivFanatics>Site Feedback)

Title is "Spyware at ImageBucket?"

(Edit: AlanH fixed the title to "Spyware at ImageShack?")

(Old Edit: That is the title for now, but it should say ImageShack. My old brain blended ImageShack with PhotoBucket. Maybe the moderators will fix it, as I don't see a way for me to edit the title).

ad.yieldmanager.com caused a flurry of popup problems back in 2005 (see the quoted posts on the new thread above), so it is not a false positive in Spyware Doctor.

dV
 
Although I am not at my computer with Civ right now, I planned on a diplomatic victory

I settled three cities and then set about wiping out bismarck before anyone got relations with him. Game feels like a coast at this point, though gandhi worries me as he's huge. I'm going to have to try triangle diplomacy to get this to work
 
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