GOTM60 Final Spoiler

[civ_steve]

GOTM 60 Final Spoiler

Also late. If you didn't finish your game in the Middle Ages, how did it end?

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[Paul#42]

20k in OCC.
(Predator OCC Challenge anybody? )

The short story of a quick game (second part):

IA - I don't know when. Free tech was steam - what a surprise! Iron Works in 20k town!!

I wish I had played this not as an OCC, the date could have been much better if I had researched faster... (

At the end everybody loved me (except Germans whom I crippled a bit, searching for leaders)... Quite unusual picture for me.

Game status: Cultural 20K Victory for Babylon
Game date: 1842 AD
Firaxis score: 1071
Jason score: 2765
Time played: 07:03:27

A Gotm 20k without a single MGL... - a shield for lowest scoring 20k for sure but is the date also competetive?


A real fun game and extremely fast (for my standards)

 

[denyd]

Paul#42: Just for the heck of it, after I finished my 100K win, I went back and played a 20K OCC just to see how I would have done. Even though I had spoiler knowledge, I doubt the result would have been much different. I settled in the same spot you did and got all the same AA wonders. However I missed Shakespeare by 3 turns and ended up with Newton's. I was 1 turn short of Hoover when the game ended and didn't ever have Espionage in play. I too managed to get Steam Power, however I had gotten Engineering in the MA. I completed my 20K OCC in 1903 AD.

I notice you had only a single infantry & cavalry guarding your only city and a single infantry on the iron. I had my infantry (4 + 1 leftover rifle) in the city. What was you choice of government? I revolted in the BC to Monarchy to be able to spend the last 15 turns of my GL initiated GA in a non-despotic government and managed to get the Hanging Gardens & librarty in that period. Later I revolted to Democracy to help my research a bit.

 

[tao]

In the end, I vastly overengineered. The turn I researched computers (no luck getting it as free tech), I had a Palace pre-build ready for SETI, a Leader waiting to hurry something, and of course a research lab would have been build in 1 turn. A bunch of elite units were ready to wipe out Germany and (hopefully) create another Great Leader.

I missed Pyramids, Great Wall, and Sun Tzu's.

Scores were very low: Firaxis 2406, Jason 4939.

 

[Paul#42]

...I completed my 20K OCC in 1903 AD.

Now that's a surprising result. Did you build the AA wonders in the same order as I did?

I notice you had only a single infantry & cavalry guarding your only city and a single infantry on the iron. I had my infantry (4 + 1 leftover rifle) in the city.

For a long period I had a reg warrior and a spear guarding, I also remember two horses - I got chivalry real late I guess.
I was then trying to fish for leaders in Germany but got pounded when I initially started with 2 pikes and 4 knights.
Later I had like 4-8 cavs and 4-8 Infs most of the time. In the end however my troops got bored and went for some adventures...
Egypt had declared and that costed me several units yet was no real thread to my town.

What was you choice of government? I revolted in the BC to Monarchy to be able to spend the last 15 turns of my GL initiated GA in a non-despotic government and managed to get the Hanging Gardens & librarty in that period. Later I revolted to Democracy to help my research a bit.

I went to monarchy first but think I changed to Republic at some time...
(I knew there were some things I should have noted...)

 

[Paul#42]

Scores were very low: Firaxis 2406, Jason 4939.

But not low enough for the shield

 

[DBear]

You guys make me sick

Finished a 20K game in 1990. Had 100K for the country, but Egypt had over half. Finished 28 tiles from domination and had 8 of the spaceship parts.

My city wonders:
Longevity, Cure for Cancer, Internet, UN, SETI, Hoover, Darwin, Suffrage, Smith, Shakes, Sistine, Copernicus, Gardens, Great Lib. Babylon was making 101 culture/turn at the end.

Settled capital in place. My mistakes were not getting enough of the ancient wonders, then I slowed tech down after I got the Great Lib by shutting off research. Got only 1 leader all game, used him to rush SETI. I had to build the FP on long island by hand, 1 shield at a time.

3608 Firaxis, 4665 Jason. My first 20K win ever.

 

[tao]

My mistakes were not getting enough of the ancient wonders, then I slowed tech down after I got the Great Lib by shutting off research.

That is not the best way. Despite of the Great Library, you have to hurry towards the high-culture Wonders Bach's, Sistine, Shakespeare's.

 

[PaperBeetle]

Yes, it always makes me laugh! If your 20k attempt is going well, you build the Glib ASAP, but you never get any techs from it.

 

[F-86 Sabre]

My game timed out. I was going for the 100K culture victory, and surpassed 100K, but Egypt was just too big and their culture score was more than half of mine.

I fought a handful of defensive wars. Egypt took several cities I'd planted on the north part of their home continent, and the Iroquois invaded my home island and took several cities, but every one of them flipped back to me well before the end of the game. I had the home island and the long island to the south, with a total of over 40 cities. One serious bummer (and the reason I lost so many cities to the Iroquois) was that I fell way behind on research, never even getting to the IA. However, I didn't really need it, since my cultural strategy was based on getting the five early culture improvements in each city ASAP.

Fun game though, and I'm pretty sure I would have won it if it had been continants or pangaea. I just couldn't get enough territory early enough to outpace Egypt.

 

[Htadus]

This game was interesting to say the least. According to CivAssist2 the last two culture buildings did not change the anticipated 20K date.
Celts came dangerously close to domination in the game after I got rid of England. Germany was way backwards. Finally we attacked and pushed the Celts out of many large islands just so they will not win the game. At the end ww became a problem. We never entered the Modern Age.
I had great luck with great leaders. The 20K city, Ur, built the following.

2800 BC Temple
1750 BC The Colossus
1150 BC The Oracle
1100 BC Library
530 BC The Great Library
250 BC The Hanging Gardens
50 BC The Great Wall
70 AD Colosseum
150 AD Cathedral
460 AD Sistine Chapel
550 AD Forbidden Palace
790 AD Sun Tzu's Art of War
830 AD University
910 AD Heroic Epic
920 AD Copernicus's Observatory
1160 AD JS Bach's Cathedral
1240 AD Magellan's Voyage
1365 AD Shakespeare's Theater
1495 AD Smith's Trading Company
1575 AD Newton's University
1630 AD Iron Works
1635 AD Universal Suffrage
1670 AD Military Academy
1766 AD Theory of Evolution

Game date: 1780 AD
Firaxis score: 2212
Jason score: 4808
Time played: 14:02:02

After learning education, I lost focus and did not research to maximize culture. But I am happy that I did not change my goals as usual.

 

[ionimplant]

should have tried 20k with so many people competing for it. instead won by diplomacy in mid1800(have i already posted the results in the 2nd thread?)

 

[Più Freddo]

Sent the Babylonians to Alpha Centauri in 1455 AD.

At the end of the second spoiler, we enjoyed a Golden Age at the very beginning of the Industrial Age. As our era bonus we had become Steam Power, as had Germany, while Persia had gotten Nationalism. During the Golden Age, we researched five technologies at good surplus, but then things got a bit harder. For Steel, Refining, Combustion and Atomic Theory we needed five turns each. Here one turn was probably lost in the research of Combustion: if we had researched Atomic Theory first, we might have managed it in four turns.

The Forbidden Palace was erected in the middle of the formerly Japanese-English continent in 730 AD.

At the eve of the Modern Times in 1265 AD, we were gifted by the gods the technology of Rocketry, again the same as Germany, while Persia got Computers. Nothing in the world, including 1000 gpt and two optional techs, could part Persia from this knowledge, so we discovered it for ourselves together with Miniaturization using the power of the Theory of Evolution. A Palace pre-build was used for The Internet, while a Military Great Leader rushed the SETI Program in the capital. The Persians were promptly destroyed on the following turn.

Modern Times research was four-turn except for Fission and Nuclear Power, which were researched in five turns each. Important for keeping research up was the erection of Smith's Trading Company in 1330 AD. Luckily another civilization discovered Economics for us.

At the end only Egypt and the Celts were still around, untouched -- we had used them extensively as trading partners supplying us with a steady flow of gold and the two missing luxuries.