Perhaps. I still can't see a distinction between method and exploit. Prebuilds could well be called exploits. Should changing production from barracks to granary be permissible but not changing between a cavalry unit and Magellans voyage?
GOTM89 - Final Spoiler
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templar_x
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i remember that an earlier version of civ had such a penalty when you changed production to something else. i think it was 50% and civ2, right? obviously the idea of prebuilds is now an intended concept of the game and nothing that was overlooked, otherwise they would have kept the penalty or would have disallowed production changes, like in the cases of disband or forest cut shields that you cannot change into a wonder build.
trading away a ressource is another proper tactical way in my eyes, as, again, you do not build the unit for 20 turns. so there is a tradeoff. (i still would hardly trade the ressource away for the sole reason to build obsolete units, but really use it for trade bait.)
what i dislike about disconnect-connect is that you avoid the conceptual tradeoff.
trading away a ressource is another proper tactical way in my eyes, as, again, you do not build the unit for 20 turns. so there is a tradeoff. (i still would hardly trade the ressource away for the sole reason to build obsolete units, but really use it for trade bait.)
what i dislike about disconnect-connect is that you avoid the conceptual tradeoff.
templar_x
usually walks his talks
and to answer your question, megalou, i indeed personally liked the penalty concept and think there should be more restrictions on production changes.
however, i think the two of us hijacked this thread...
however, i think the two of us hijacked this thread...
If we hi-jacked the thread, I'm quite happy about it. These threads are so short nowadays. 
I doubt that anyone is angry about not being on the first page.
I see what you mean. We'll never see eye to eye about it and it doesn't matter.
I doubt that anyone is angry about not being on the first page.I see what you mean. We'll never see eye to eye about it and it doesn't matter.
templar_x
usually walks his talks
it really doesn´t matter...
... but now, seeing the results, i know the real reason why we won´t see "eye to eye" about it: you´re standing one step higher!
Maybe so! 
Anyway I'm quite impressed by your result, deducting ROP rape, connect-disconnect, broken peace treaties (?) from the equation. What would also be fun is to watch Neo666 GOTM89 - The Movie. I'd give it the full two hours.
templar_x
usually walks his talks
honestly, i am quite impressed myself
and yes, deduct broken peace treaties (as a concept, not as a singular event) as well. your list of my personal "no-no´s" makes me appear like a zealous purist even to myself though.
and yes, deduct broken peace treaties (as a concept, not as a singular event) as well. your list of my personal "no-no´s" makes me appear like a zealous purist even to myself though.
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