[R&F] Government Plaza

[Exterrestrial]

When and where do you decide to build a government plaza and what do you think of it?

I tend to wait until I settled or conquered a city that 's near hostile environment, especially if I want to expand there and flip surrounding cities with loyalty. This, of course, comes with the downside of not building the plaza as soon as possible. I'm interested in how others handle this district.

 

[Rosty K]

It usually somehow ends up in my 2nd or 3rd city without me thinking of it too much. I'll sometimes see that there's a place for Casa de Contracion (sp?), in case I might need it later.

 

[Disgustipated]

My last couple of games I had delayed it and kind of forgot about it. I could have used Warlords throne in my last game, but I started my attack so early I didn't have a chance to build it. It usually ends up in my second city. Though my Aztec game I ended up putting it in a conquered Indonesian city late in the game that was probably like my 6th city total.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I'm not one for pervasive conquest, so I like to put it in my capital. 1) because I prefer Autocracy (which gives bonus yields to the cities with the palace and the gov plaza buildings, therefore double if the capital has both). 2) to get the Ancestral Hall up faster for expansion.

 

[acluewithout]

Does anybody just skip building it entirely? Is there any particular advantage building it in your capital?

 

[Rosty K]

Does anybody just skip building it entirely? Is there any particular advantage building it in your capital?

Logically, there should be (why on Earth Random Planet should my government be anywhere else, but in the capital?). But I don't think there are any. There are already a lot of things to build in the capital (and there are some wonders which can only be built there + Government Plaza also brings another wonder in its tow), so this is the reason I prefer to have it elsewhere. That city also marks the default location for Liang, because of the appropriate promotion.

As for completely skipping it? I find the Ancestral Hall too powerful to avoid it

 

[UWHabs]

I generally try to place it where it can help another district out with adjacency. Basically, I make my little campus/holy site/theatre/government plaza zone. Often it happens to be in my 2nd or 3rd city, or sometimes in another civ's former capital.

It also helps to place it in a city that I figure will have less need of other districts. Often times, I feel my capital is better suited to having other districts, so I don't want to "waste" a spot on it. But it's powerful enough that I don't want to wait too long to build it.

 

[Scaramanga]

Logically, there should be (why on Earth Random Planet should my government be anywhere else, but in the capital?).

Netherlands is an exception where the Hague is the government but Amsterdam is the capital.

 

[liv]

I cannot resist that 8 combat bonus that comes with oligarchy and its card so I put up the plaza asap. The placing to me is less relevant

 

[BenitoChavez]

It also helps to place it in a city that I figure will have less need of other districts. Often times, I feel my capital is better suited to having other districts, so I don't want to "waste" a spot on it. But it's powerful enough that I don't want to wait too long to build it.

The government plaza has +1 adjacency bonuses compared to +1/2 baseline bonuses for other districts. For that reason I like to put it in a city that can build a lot of districts to max out adjacency.

 

[Archon_Wing]

When and where do you decide to build a government plaza and what do you think of it?

I tend to wait until I settled or conquered a city that 's near hostile environment, especially if I want to expand there and flip surrounding cities with loyalty. This, of course, comes with the downside of not building the plaza as soon as possible. I'm interested in how others handle this district.

That's what I do. Usually the government plaza goes in a captured capital and I pick an open space where it can benefit other districts with adjacency.

Here's a recent example of a nice one in that context. I sorta resent the horse.

Does anybody just skip building it entirely? Is there any particular advantage building it in your capital?

If it takes too long, you might consider it. Not building it loses out on governor promotions and the t1 building; either of which is strong. Also if you're Japan, you might consider the extra adjancency bonuses.

 

[Exterrestrial]

That's what I do. Usually the government plaza goes in a captured capital and I pick an open space where it can benefit other districts with adjacency.

Juicy.

 

[Exterrestrial]

The plaza has really good benefits to it so you can use it differently (or all at once). The adjacency bonus is great, and so is the loyalty boost/pressure and of course, the bonuses of the buildings (and policy cards, even though I raraly use them).

I wish there were more disctrics that give you options for different buildings.

 

[whyidie]

I skip it if I'm going for a fast (domination) victory. Recently I've been trying to time expansion with Ancestral Hall/Magnus logistics but more often than not I can't get there fast enough and I'll usually have to build a couple of cities with just colonization active.

 

[UWHabs]

The government plaza has +1 adjacency bonuses compared to +1/2 baseline bonuses for other districts. For that reason I like to put it in a city that can build a lot of districts to max out adjacency.

Yeah, but keep in mind it doesn't have to be in the same city as those other districts. So in my current game, it's helping a holy site and a campus, but neither of them is in the same city as the government plaza.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I cannot resist that 8 combat bonus that comes with oligarchy and its card so I put up the plaza asap. The placing to me is less relevant

Wait.... does the bonus from the Government itself stack with the Card itself for a +16 o.O

 

[BarbarianHunter]

Near a river, but not adjacent to a river. 6 open tiles surrounding it. Tiles surrounding it within range of 4 (or more) cities. Then again, if I need a legacy bonus, I just build it any old place. If open terrain without access to mountains, build 4 (or more) campuses around it then build other districts around them, use Natural Philosophy for +100% adjacency bonus. If mountain terrain, use to push commercial hub adjacenty to +3 or +4. Situational I guess.

 

[kb27787]

The government plaza has +1 adjacency bonuses compared to +1/2 baseline bonuses for other districts. For that reason I like to put it in a city that can build a lot of districts to max out adjacency.

Actually the +1 is independent of the +0.5 innate bonus almost all districts receive. So for all practical purposes the plaza is +1.5.

Placing a CH on a river next to a city center and plaza is by far the easiest way to get +4 bonus on CH for the era points.

 

[agonistes]

In the grand scheme, the adjacement bonus doesn't mean much to me. I build it in the capital because it feels like it belongs there. Same with the park. And it leaves me with the feeling 'well, there goes two wasted tiles.' But whatever. Long as it looks nice.

 

[LMT]

For some reason, the option to build it always comes up during my initial war. So it isn't much of a priority because I'm mainly building units.

So I end up building it in a city that isn't toward the front of the war, but still has decent production. Sometimes I delay building it until the war is over.

And by the time Warlord's Throne comes up, it's usually too late for it to do me much good. That's why I choose Ancestral Hall. It allows me to spread all over the continent and fill in any spots that I don't want other civs to get to.