Graphs

[oyzar]

Is it just me or are these totally useless since you can't see anyone else graphs without enough espionage and you can't get espionage in ffh?

 

[Chip56]

Well you could save your game and retire.
But yeah right now its not very usefull.

 

[Farmer Bobathan]

would replacing the ffh espionage xml file with the bts one work?

 

[Tobbe_1]

I really miss them. I my current games, I have absolutely NO information on the enemies military strength.

I WANT THEM BACK!

 

[Nimbus]

Just go into Civ4UnitInfos.xml and change a units' info (a scout or an assassin maybe) look for
<iEspionagePoints>0</iEspionagePoints> then make the 0 a 15, save, and you can sacrifice him in any civs cities, repeat and then be able to get your graphs back with each civ you have open borders with.

 

[SwordofStriker]

You can check your relative strength on the demographics screen. It's not the same, and not as good, but it works.

 

[MagisterCultuum]

You can copy the BtS espianage folder to use BtS espianage mechanics, but you would also have to add some source of espionage points (palaces, buildings, etc.) for this to do any good. This is what I did in .25 while waiting for Shadow.

Actually, I think that deleting the espionage folder in the Mod folder would have the same effect, since it would then search in the default location.

 

[oyzar]

I just want the graphs... I don't really care about the espionage. Good old vanilla or warlords graphs would work just fine..

 

[Chip56]

I just want the graphs...

If it doesn't bother you to save, retire and reload everytime you want to take a look at the graphs then thats at least a temporary hot-fix.

 

[oyzar]

That bothers me quite alot especially if i am playing MP ...

 

[TheJopa]

Send something invisible into their borders and check up what they have in their cities.

 

[westamastaflash]

Send something invisible into their borders and check up what they have in their cities.

The demographics screen is really much more useful than the graphs, IMHO. Knowing what GDP your opponents are at is quite helpful.

 

[oyzar]

Well the graphs tell you that too and the demographics screen doesn't do it for everyone...

 

[rusty217]

The demographics screen is really much more useful than the graphs, IMHO. Knowing what GDP your opponents are at is quite helpful.

Actually, the graphs are much better becuase you can see all the same things and also know which civ it is, while the demographics screen only shows you your data, the top data and the bottom data but it doesn't show you which civ....