Great conquerors also fighters?

MWA

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Someone I know claims that Ghengis Kahn and Alexander the great also did a lot of fist fighting, and that they were both good fighters. He further said that to defend their positons, they had to fight.

Is there any truth to this? Because I for one find it hard to believe...

Any information about this would be greatly appreciated.
 
Come on! Some of you have to know something about this!
 
It is true in the case of Ghengis Kahn. That's all I can tell you.
 
alexander the great was known to always be in the frontlines of most of his battles, raisig the molrale of his troops, so yes he did fought a lot in that way.......not exactly fist fights......but they were fights all right :P
 
Re: Alexander the Great. Read an account of the decisive attack by Alexander and the companion Cavalryacroos the Granicus, in which the Persian Army was almost entirely decapitated in a few minutes.. They saw him charge across the River and most of them read up with their personnal escorts to engage. Alexander himself killed 2 (or more ?) and most of the rest were killed near him. So Many general and Satraps were killed that the Persian were unable to organize any further defense for Asia Minor.

Ceaser was written to have been one of the dealiest swordsmen know in the long history of Rome. More than one writer has metion his sometimes going berserk in battle, and than his speed of sword use was unhumanly fast.
 
wait a min........which batle are u talking about? are u talking about the one where he was outnumbered like 50 to 1 and the persian commander was the persian leader himself? alexander didnt killed their whole army, he jsut defended his position and then went for the place wehre the persian leader was (who was it?) who retreated and ran away, then the persian soldiers simply stoped fighting
 
Originally posted by stalin006
alexander the great was known to always be in the frontlines of most of his battles, raisig the molrale of his troops, so yes he did fought a lot in that way.......not exactly fist fights......but they were fights all right :P

Could you elaborate or give me some sources? Thanks!
 
the dude from gladiator was a general!

regarding alex and genghis, i have not heard about them being great fighters, but most ancient and medieval generals got some action at some point.
 
Originally posted by stalin006
wait a min........which batle are u talking about? are u talking about the one where he was outnumbered like 50 to 1 and the persian commander was the persian leader himself? alexander didnt killed their whole army, he jsut defended his position and then went for the place wehre the persian leader was (who was it?) who retreated and ran away, then the persian soldiers simply stoped fighting

No the battel of the GRANICUS, not Guagemela/Arbela and not Issus.
 
MWA is this for a paper or something for school? i had to do something similar last year in World history AP, well anyways........alexander was a good fighter, he was ALWAYS in the front line fighting, specially in those battles on which he was outnumbered 10 to one and such, he did this mostly to raise the morale, he was most of the times on his trusted (white?) horse charhing, well can u name me a great ancient conqueror who was really smart but couldnt hold a sword? thats not posible, not until much after leader like napoleon came to be. so most great military leaders of the ancient era were good figters at some time like sceasar, hannibal, alexander, khan, etc etc etc
 
Thanks for the info! I don't have a school assignment on this currently, but I'm interested in the great military leaders, plus I might chose to do an essay on this subject later on this year, so any links or suggested reading would be very much appreciated.
 
In more recent history, generals have needed to be in a position where they can coordinate the efforts of their troops, usually an area further away from the actual fighting. Thus, there have been fewer examples of commanders getting into the thick of fighting. Also contributing to this was the fact that most officers were from the aristocracy, and were reluctant to risk their priviliged lives in combat. Napoleon was an exception, especially in his early career. He sustained a bayonet wound at Toulon, and he personally led the final assault over the bridge at Lodi in the face of several batteries of Austrian artillery. Later in the Empire, he sustained a minor musket wound to the leg during one of the early battles of the 1813 campaign (Dresden, I think).

Later in the 19th century, commanders almost never led troops in person, as logistics demanded they stay in one area in order to observe the action and issue orders. There were exceptions, though, such as the 1864 battle of Spotsylvania when the Federal assault on the "mule shoe" threatened to collapse the entire Confederate line. General Lee saw the threat and began to lead the reserve forward himself. His men, however, loving him as they did, led the general's horse Traveler back behind the line to safety, then drove the federal assault back out of the mule shoe.
 
Originally posted by stalin006
well can u name me a great ancient conqueror who was really smart but couldnt hold a sword? thats not posible, not until much after leader like napoleon came to be. so most great military leaders of the ancient era were good figters at some time like sceasar, hannibal, alexander, khan, etc etc etc
I can! Qin Shihuang, the First Emperor, of China. He just sat atop the Qin military machine and his officials/generals did all the conquering in his name. Were it not for his ruthless unification in 221 BCE, China today will only be a geographical theme; rather than some Third World nation many Westerners think are challenging the USA for world supremacy nowadays. :rolleyes: :lol:

But generally true though, although most Chinese emperors are exceptions to this rule (rule via moral example, not martial valour is the Chinese theme for rulership). ;) Even the warrior kings of China had to package themselves as scholars and such, to command the support of the Confucian elite/gentry.
 
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