Great People Improvements?

[Zaimejs]

Applause for you. Not sure how this became the "look at me" thread, but well done!

You must be very special.

Oh... another problem with Great Generals is that they can't fight. That's the dumbest thing ever. They get killed by scouts. Seriously? I want to see them kicking serious ass... or at least defending themselves. I want them to be able to take over a unit... turning that unit into a great general. What about using generals to build up XP in units. That was a good improvement in Civ IV.

 

[elprofesor]

I believe he posted in the wrong thread?

Anyway, why should GGs be able to fight? A scout squad represents five people geared towards survival in the wilderness.
Try imagining how a fight between five Bear Grylls and an unprotected Napoleon, or an Alexander the Great, or a William Sherman. I'd bet my money on the scouts.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I believe he posted in the wrong thread?

Anyway, why should GGs be able to fight? A scout squad represents five people geared towards survival in the wilderness.
Try imagining how a fight between five Bear Grylls and an unprotected Napoleon, or an Alexander the Great, or a William Sherman. I'd bet my money on the scouts.

Not to mention Generals never actually fought, Id on't imagine Hitler, Stalin or Napoleon actually shooting the enemy, they were often in distance from the battle.

 

[Zaimejs]

Two words... Ghengis Khan. Wait... Julius Caesar. There are many who were amazing warriors. And if a Scout can be a 5 person party.... why wouldn't a general have a personal body guard? Why would he/she ever be out on his/her own? Doesn't make sense.

Besides... Scout=Lewis and Clark. George Washington would have eaten them for lunch. Then spit out their bones for supper. Then ate the bones for a midnight snack. Then other stuff.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Zaimejs, but they do, you don't leave General exposed, you stack them with a Warrior, that's how you use them... why on earth would you let Great General out in the open alone?

 

[Louis XXIV]

Two words... Ghengis Khan. Wait... Julius Caesar.

Is there any evidence of Caesar actually fighting himself in combat (ideally written by someone other than Caesar)? I agree about Temujin and there are others like Richard III, William the Conqueror, Philip of Macedon who fought as well. But since they are the exceptions (especially when you consider modern great generals whose names are used as well), I'm fine with how things are now.

 

[Zaimejs]

Did you watch Rome? Caesar was a BAD ASS.

 

[Zaimejs]

Okay, how about RANSOMING a GG instead of them just disappearing? That's what more likely would have happened.

 

[elprofesor]

No matter how badass someone is, unless it's some Hollywood epic movie, one guy will always lose against 5 trained soldiers in an open fight, and the point about the personal guard has already been explained by tKoBO. A Great General should be directing the tide of a battle, not participating in an ambush just in case some crazy commando tries to capture him.

The ransom thing is well thought, though.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

No matter how badass someone is, unless it's some Hollywood epic movie, one guy will always lose against 5 trained soldiers in an open fight, and the point about the personal guard has already been explained by tKoBO. A Great General should be directing the tide of a battle, not participating in an ambush just in case some crazy commando tries to capture him.

The ransom thing is well thought, though.

While I'm not sure if I agree that GG's should get an attack, I think the point of "Scouts are 5 people, therefore they should beat a GG who is one" is silly. Naturally, they are merely avatars or symbols, and all Horsemen type of classes do not have many soldiers.

 

[elprofesor]

While I'm not sure if I agree that GG's should get an attack, I think the point of "Scouts are 5 people, therefore they should beat a GG who is one" is silly. Naturally, they are merely avatars or symbols, and all Horsemen type of classes do not have many soldiers.

Fair point, but mine was that one person (i.e., the GG) is completely meaningless in a large scale battle. Thus he shouldn't be able to fight back.