great wall bug or not ?
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Anaztazioch
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If they were Slaves or Peasant rebbels, they can venture inside your borders as well as attack/pillage/capture units/improvements/cities.
But if they were barbarians that spawned in fog of war (In World Map they dont spawn) or built in Barbarian cities, or Barbarian started with them, they cant, or atleast should not capture, or even exist inside cultural borders of Civilization that has built Great Wall wonder.
Pay more attention where does that Barbs hail from. I know that "my" slaves and "my" peasants can exist inside my cultural borders with Great Wall built, but dont know if AI slaves/peassants can.
In simple and short way:
If you have Slavary or Serfdom, barbarians that spawn due to slave rebbelion or peasant uprising CAN capture your cities even if you have Great Wall built. So there is no bug.
If you have lost a city to barbs that came from far away land, or simply from fog of war, that means it IS a bug.
But if you dont know if they are slaves/peasants of AI civilizations, or spawned/built barb units, than this matter may need to be looked into.
But if they were barbarians that spawned in fog of war (In World Map they dont spawn) or built in Barbarian cities, or Barbarian started with them, they cant, or atleast should not capture, or even exist inside cultural borders of Civilization that has built Great Wall wonder.
Pay more attention where does that Barbs hail from. I know that "my" slaves and "my" peasants can exist inside my cultural borders with Great Wall built, but dont know if AI slaves/peassants can.
In simple and short way:
If you have Slavary or Serfdom, barbarians that spawn due to slave rebbelion or peasant uprising CAN capture your cities even if you have Great Wall built. So there is no bug.
If you have lost a city to barbs that came from far away land, or simply from fog of war, that means it IS a bug.
But if you dont know if they are slaves/peasants of AI civilizations, or spawned/built barb units, than this matter may need to be looked into.
I think barbarians that have been spawned by slave rebelion , in any civ, can pass the great wall. The slavery civic imho need to be turned down alot ... even tho i dont use it , the AI all does .. and they loose cities often , also i have to kill "their" rebeling slaves (barbarians) just about every turn.
In short
the greatwall shouldnt stop rebeling troops if they come from your cities .. but enemy cities imho yes.
In short
the greatwall shouldnt stop rebeling troops if they come from your cities .. but enemy cities imho yes.
Anaztazioch
Hit in the head too much
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You know that Barbarians can adopt Slavary ? They can hbave their own rebelions. I heared that TR Team works on making slavary rebelions fight even vs regular Barbarians, but so far I think they just join them as Great Wall sneaking bastards.
Also know that Great Wall was often breached by barbarians, mostly thanks to corrupt Great Wall Gate Keepers, that allowed barbs to pass thrugh for a fee.
You know that Barbarians can adopt Slavary ? They can hbave their own rebelions. I heared that TR Team works on making slavary rebelions fight even vs regular Barbarians, but so far I think they just join them as Great Wall sneaking bastards.
Also know that Great Wall was often breached by barbarians, mostly thanks to corrupt Great Wall Gate Keepers, that allowed barbs to pass thrugh for a fee.
Walter Hawkwood
RI Curator
Could slaves and rebels be turned into a separate civ from barbarians? That seems the easiest solution.
Anaztazioch
Hit in the head too much
Thats whet TR Team is trying/no-longer-trying to do from what i heared.
Mexico
TR senior programmer
Anaztazioch
Hit in the head too much
Good to read your post again Mexico 
Started to think I will have to make Total Realism 4th ressurection
Have you by chance read "MOD: More Leaders for TR" thread by Walter HawkWood ? So far its been made for Total Realism, so I dont think he will have much against the use of it by TR Team, or at least some leaders of his.
Started to think I will have to make Total Realism 4th ressurection
Have you by chance read "MOD: More Leaders for TR" thread by Walter HawkWood ? So far its been made for Total Realism, so I dont think he will have much against the use of it by TR Team, or at least some leaders of his.
Mexico
TR senior programmer
Good to read your post again Mexico
Started to think I will have to make Total Realism 4th ressurection
Have you by chance read "MOD: More Leaders for TR" thread by Walter HawkWood ? So far its been made for Total Realism, so I dont think he will have much against the use of it by TR Team, or at least some leaders of his.
yes, i was in contact with walter....i n next release (probably in next patch - depend on patch size) this will be included as optional component
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