Great Wall's Area of Effect

[EndoConvert]

The Civilopedia claims that the Great Wall makes it so that "enemy land units must expend 1 extra movement per tile inside your territory." But the graphic/visual for the Great Wall only surrounds a few cities. Does the Great Wall's effect actually apply to all cities, or just those tiles which it actually surrounds?

 

[alpaca]

All your territory, the visuals are just visuals (and good job that is so)

 

[Antarion]

the gfx only includes max 5 tiles around the city which build it. the effect ends with metallurgy which is still not listed in civpedia

 

[bryanw1995]

is it when YOU get metallurgy or when anybody gets it? I've only built it a couple of times. I could see it coming in handy on deity if you could get it...

 

[EndoConvert]

the gfx only includes max 5 tiles around the city which build it.

No, that's not right. The graphics can include a lot more than that; in the game I'm playing right now, the visual for my Great Wall surrounds all the tiles owned by six cities. I really wish, though, that the visual would surround your entire empire and shift with your borders as your empire expands; that would look much cooler and make more sense with the ability affecting your whole empire.

 

[Kyroshill]

No, that's not right. The graphics can include a lot more than that; in the game I'm playing right now, the visual for my Great Wall surrounds all the tiles owned by six cities. I really wish, though, that the visual would surround your entire empire and shift with your borders as your empire expands; that would look much cooler and make more sense with the ability affecting your whole empire.

Pay closer attention... it does move.... it just doesn't fill out all the way to your empire's borders in all locations.... but it does adjust as your empire grows.... just not at the same speed... if you REX it will quite some time before it starts catching up

 

[EndoConvert]

Pay closer attention... it does move.... it just doesn't fill out all the way to your empire's borders in all locations.... but it does adjust as your empire grows.... just not at the same speed... if you REX it will quite some time before it starts catching up

I'm well aware that the walls do shift slowly. What I meant was that I wish it would shift simultaneously with the expansion of the empire's borders.

 

[harry_flashman]

Great wall plus himinji castle, plus landed gentry, plus a couple of culture bombs can make you pretty much unassailable for a while.
Yet to try it out with artillery, or does it obsOlete before that point.

 

[EndoConvert]

Is there some social policy or other ability that I'm overlooking that duplicates Great Wall's effect? Because I just played a game in which I was warring against Songhai and found that my movement rate within their borders was slowed down as if they had the Great Wall --- but I had the Great Wall, so clearly it wasn't that. So...how were they slowing me down?

 

[EndoConvert]

Is there some social policy or other ability that I'm overlooking that duplicates Great Wall's effect? Because I just played a game in which I was warring against Songhai and found that my movement rate within their borders was slowed down as if they had the Great Wall --- but I had the Great Wall, so clearly it wasn't that. So...how were they slowing me down?

Never mind. I figured it out: zones of control.

 

[GeorgeF]

Didn't know it expired with Metallurgy. Not worth it to build, then. I was wondering what happened when some of Askia's unique cavalry waltzed inside my borders to kill a healing cannon.

 

[Smote]

I've had a U shaped great wall once.. it was like a bay... worst design for a wall I've ever seen!

 

[dashwinner]

Well if you look at China today, the great wall didn't shift to extend to their present borders. Juuuust saying!

 

[timtofly]

I'm well aware that the walls do shift slowly. What I meant was that I wish it would shift simultaneously with the expansion of the empire's borders.

Maybe if you had more slaves, the work would get done faster. It does take a while to move bricks you know.

It does like to snake around coastal tiles. My current game there is a S around the Great Lakes. It looks even stranger than a U. It would have taken a lot less work to just connect it at the end of the lake instead of trying to avoid encorporating it.