grow a pair

[Aspon]

there are a few things in civ that i want to see and have not, i think its because they dare not though they dared to in civ 2.

Firstly I am not a Nazi infact Hitler specifically indentified my kind and advocated our extermination before official diagnosis of it existed. I'm refering to aspergers/autism in Mein Kampf he refered to us as anti socials. Yes I have read it three books which are essential reading for understanding the world and where its headed in my opinion are the Bible the Koran and Mein Kampf I have all three and read all three regulary I believe all three are total idiotic nonsense which has seriously damaged mankind I also unfortunately belief there the most influential effects on man kind and thus essential reading.

Now then as I was saying I may not be A nazi but I like historicle realism who has heard of Bismark or Catherine I never did before I played civ games though what about Hitler and Stalin everyone.

I reckon Gemrnay should not have Bismark as there Leader But Adolf Hitler. I also reckon there unique ability should be captured workers become slaves and increase production once they build there unique building which replaces the workshop the concentration camp.

yes this may or may be offensive to some people but it is more historically accurate. I don't think the real German race got strong by by capturing barbarians into there army. in fact the closest thing to Barbarians in the real world is terrorists who used to be pirates and we all know who best benifits from that yes Arabias unique ability should be killed barbarians join your army as suicide bombers (ok I'm joking on that one but was serious in the rest of this post)

further more Russia should have Stalin not Catherine and there unique ability actually there unique ability is fine.

as for america they had the sharp shooter which was a rifleman not a musket man who could shoot longer distances maybe americas unique unit should be a ranged unit replacement of the rifleman, not further site.

America historically has got there production behind a war effort to great effect maybe for a unique ability they should get a % increase in production during war time.

I like the idea of waging war against the Nazis and thus would like to kill the real Nazi germans not bismark.

Also Winston churchill for England please not Elizabeth. unique ability is actually quite appropiet for england so is the unique unit but maybe replacing the crosbowman and not the archer and obv more powerful and also make a navy actually relevant.

I know this may not be politically correct but it makes the game more real and better and i think the makers should grow a pair and not worry about been pc just make a good game.

 

[cman2010]

this has to be a bad trolling attempt, all I can say is that anyone who has studied history has heard of bismark and cathrine. Your staement that they should include concentration camps is so over the top that makes up such a small part of german history, also including hitler can not be done as they would not be allowed to sell it.

btw its not a good idea to insult two relegious groups at the start of a post either.

 

[Becomedeath]

Yeah, I'd love to be in the meeting where someone suggested to the marketing director that "we're going to make a game where you can play as Hitler and conquer the world"....that would have been interesting...

I think Civ focuses on a civilisations great leaders, not their historical shame. I imagine that German players would have absolutely no interest in playing as the man who they are still struggling to shake their ancestral shadow on an international stage.

Incidentally, a condition or belief does not make you a "kind", that's the sort of thinking that allowed Adolf to gain support in the first place.

 

[Aspon]

this has to be a bad trolling attempt, all I can say is that anyone who has studied history has heard of bismark and cathrine. Your staement that they should include concentration camps is so over the top that makes up such a small part of german history, also including hitler can not be done as they would not be allowed to sell it.

btw its not a good idea to insult two relegious groups at the start of a post either.

ok lets go all the way then I think religion all religion is nonsense. I also Believe it has a negative effect on mankind. Islam and Christianity are the two most popular and widest spread religions in the world. thus they are essential reading for one who wants to understand the world. Had wars gone differently in the past we may have had the greek gods still and thus Zues etc in which point whatever that religion was called I would be speaking ill off. I think bad of all religion, I just don't see the others as so relevant because well there just not so wide spread. and I point blank refuse to respect any religion as its all nonsense and damaging to mankind and quite frankly I wouldnt care what other people believe if it did not affect me but it does global politics and wars are caused by religion and i may be drafted into the army and or killed by a terrorist at some point it ruined my income for some time and endangers my life. Don't dare tell me i don't have the right to criticise religious groups i point blank refuse to respect or refrain from insulting and mocking every single religion there is. I see no reason to keep quite about some psychotic belief in an imaginary sky daddy when such does seriously impact on my life.

However that is a deviation from the point. I want to beat up on nazis when I play civ.

 

[Ranos]

No. Just plain no.

The civ games are based on historical fact but are not a historical representation. They are going to use leaders and traits that the majority of the world are going to be okay with. Adding Hitler and concentration camps would lose them a massive amount of sales and create tons of bad press.

I suggest checking the Creation & Customization forum as there are people who want these things and will mod them in.

 

[Becomedeath]

Don't dare tell me i don't have the right to criticise religious groups i point blank refuse to respect or refrain from insulting and mocking every single religion there is.

He doesn't have to, the forum rules will tell you that quite clearly.

Though we typically encourage people to express their opinions and ideas, we have the right to delete yours if necessary, should we consider it abusive, inappropriate or not in the best interests of the community.

 

[Deggial]

I think Civ focuses on a civilisations great leaders, not their historical shame. I imagine that German players would have absolutely no interest in playing as the man who they are still struggling to shake their ancestral shadow on an international stage.

Well, I am german. And I'm not sure, if I would take me the time to open the window before I throw the game out of it, if I would find Hitler beeing the representative of Germany.

IF there is something like a WWII scenario, maybe. But even then it would be extremely inappropriate. And forbidden, in German, by the way. Which I approve!

 

[cman2010]

Don't dare tell me i don't have the right to criticise religious groups i point blank refuse to respect or refrain from insulting and mocking every single religion there is. I see no reason to keep quite about some psychotic belief in an imaginary sky daddy when such does seriously impact on my life.

However that is a deviation from the point. I want to beat up on nazis when I play civ.

I never said you dont have the right to express yourself in these matters, I said its not a good idea to start off a discussion by bashing two of the biggest relegious groups out there, thats like me saying I dont like xyz about civ 3 btw I read a book about gays and I dont like gays that would not be a good start now would it(btw I have nothing aginst gays). anyway I will not respond directly to you as I think this is a trolling attempt.

btw as Becomedeath pointed out its against the forum rules anyway.

 

[cman2010]

He doesn't have to, the forum rules will tell you that quite clearly.

Though we typically encourage people to express their opinions and ideas, we have the right to delete yours if necessary, should we consider it abusive, inappropriate or not in the best interests of the community.

exactly great point.

 

[Tapewormlondon]

its just an insane idea. Its not about growing a pair, its about common decency. Nazis, Slaves, Concentration camps WTH?? This thread is going to infuriate so many people. Needs to be locked.

 

[Aspon]

this has to be a bad trolling attempt, all I can say is that anyone who has studied history has heard of bismark and cathrine. Your staement that they should include concentration camps is so over the top that makes up such a small part of german history, also including hitler can not be done as they would not be allowed to sell it.

btw its not a good idea to insult two relegious groups at the start of a post either.

I never said you dont have the right to express yourself in these matters, I said its not a good idea to start off a discussion by bashing two of the biggest relegious groups out there, thats like me saying I dont like xyz about civ 3 btw I read a book about gays and I dont like gays that would not be a good start now would it(btw I have nothing aginst gays). anyway I will not respond directly to you as I think this is a trolling attempt.

btw as Becomedeath pointed out its against the forum rules anyway.

I don't have a problem with gays in fact i encourage homosexuality its not my thing but with our population getting so large and a real danger due to that, people been able to indulge in a basic primal urge essential to our being without further expanding a current significant problem (the population getting to large) is only a good thing. I am all for gays and gay rights.

 

[Sync]

. Don't dare tell me i don't have the right to criticise religious groups i point blank refuse to respect or refrain from insulting and mocking every single religion there is. I see no reason to keep quite about some psychotic belief in an imaginary sky daddy when such does seriously impact on my life.

Don't dare tell him that he can't criticise your criticism of religion. That's the thing about free speech, everyone loves to exercise it, but no-one loves being the victim of it. But then, maybe I shouldn't be criticising you for criticising him for his criticism of you? Someone needs to criticise me now to restore balance.

 

[buchengshi]

Please post a scan of a note from your doctor diagnosing you as having Asperger's (or any other type of autism). Until then, I will just assume that you are another one of those people who thinks he has Asperger's just because he has no social skills - aka an assburger.

 

[KevinLancaster]

Gah, I feel there are a couple of things wrong with this post.

1. Hitler didn't improve Germany at all; in fact he drove it into ruin. The other brutal dictators (Stalin, Mao) at least didn't get their country overrun and divided for 50 years.

2. The US was isolationist for most of its history, because originally they wanted to show to the rest of the world what a free, peaceful democratic nation was, and mostly stayed out of European affairs.

3. Churchill presided as PM over one war, was partially responsible for the terrible Gallipoli campaign in WW1, and was intensely opposed to Indian independence. Elizabeth managed to make England into a major power that would shape modern history.

Also, since the Internet is governed by no-one, you have no rights on the Internet, only privileges. Which can be taken away at any time deemed necessary.

Fix up your grammar too, this isn't Windows Live Messenger or the YouTube comments section, these are the CFC Forums.

 

[Aspon]

Please post a scan of a note from your doctor diagnosing you as having Asperger's (or any other type of autism). Until then, I will just assume that you are another one of those people who thinks he has Asperger's just because he has no social skills - aka an assburger.

you do realise that they dont have a specific gene they have identified as autism they usually diagnose it based on tendencies. (not saying it is not genetic evidence suggests it is just they don't as of yet have a specific gene or or physical trait to identify it its diagnoses based on behaviour).

i can find the documents if i have to but i see no need to post them up here, as how is that relevant to anything.

 

[Aspon]

Don't dare tell him that he can't criticise your criticism of religion. That's the thing about free speech, everyone loves to exercise it, but no-one loves being the victim of it. But then, maybe I shouldn't be criticising you for criticising him for his criticism of you? Someone needs to criticise me now to restore balance.

perhaps i am not explaining myself well enough, I am fine with people criticising my criticism what I am not fine with is people suggesting i don't have the right to criticise. there is a difference.

 

[wydon]

I believe the developers of the game were looking for the best leader for each given civilization. I guess they felt that Bismark and Catherine were the best leaders for the German and Russian civilizations. I'm sure there were discussion on which leaders to choose and I'm sure Stalin came up (since it was in Civ 4), but the developers went in another direction. Perhaps you should apply as a developer in Civ 6, and maybe they'll listen to your ideas. The whole point in making games is to sell them and make a lot of money, and I think your ideas would not sell more games; however, you may find some ideas on how to mod the game by checking the customization forum.

You are in the minority on this one....

 

[Aspon]

I believe the developers of the game were looking for the best leader for each given civilization. I guess they felt that Bismark and Catherine were the best leaders for the German and Russian civilizations. I'm sure there were discussion on which leaders to choose and I'm sure Stalin came up (since it was in Civ 4), but the developers went in another direction. Perhaps you should apply as a developer in Civ 6, and maybe they'll listen to your ideas. The whole point in making games is to sell them and make a lot of money, and I think your ideas would not sell more games; however, you may find some ideas on how to mod the game by checking the customization forum.

You are in the minority on this one....

your response is logical argument rather then emotional abuse and thus i actually respect your response.

I guess your right but I would find civ more enjoyable with this.

 

[The_J]

Moderator Action: Sorry, not the time for another Hitler thread.
This has been discussed zillions of times, all the threads were a wreck at the end, and i don't have the patience to babysitt another Hitler thread with the same old arguments again, just to see that it will end in the same way again.
Thread closed.