Harold Pinter

[Pokurcz]

Great God!

I just saw this pre recorded speech he held before he gets the Nobel prize.

Man does he make a convincing case against the righteusnes of post WW2 USA!

Freekin briliant!

It is everybodys duty as a thinking human being to see that one as a whole!

It will make a great theme for a discussion.

 

[Rambuchan]

It would make a better one if you linked us to the transcript or something that streamed it.

I heard some of this speech on the radio but I want to catch more. Always loved Pinter.

"That's not equivocal, that's unequivocal!" - The Homecoming.

[EDIT: Corrected terrible typo in the Homecoming quote.]

 

[Rambuchan]

Here we go:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4957820

http://p080.ezboard.com/ftheharoldpintercommunityfrm1.showMessage?topicID=446.topic

EDIT: This is the right link, second one down was for something else a few months ago.

http://p080.ezboard.com/ftheharoldpintercommunityfrm1.showMessage?topicID=473.topic

 

[Pokurcz]

Her is a nice link:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1915328,00.html

Specificly this one (text), despite the lack of the artisticaly fevorent delivery he makes in the video:

http://nobelprize.org/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-lecture-e.html

Here is a nice commentary with wich I concure:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1661911,00.html


The specific reason I bring this up is because I have noticed a lack of understandig from americans when it comes to the bad reputation the USA has abroad.
They do not understand why so many people dislike them and are generaly distrustfull of the UN, becaus apparently it seems to the to be a forum for disgruntled America haters.

It is painfully obvious that the citizens of the USA completely and totaly believe what their government tells them, that their the leaders of the free world, and that they have brought nothing but democracy enveloped by compassion to the less fortunate parts of the world.

Now if these people would take the time to realy listen to Pinters speach, they would find themselves in a healthy state of having their blinds uncovered. It plainly tells why the second world war was as many americans put it "the last good war".

That is my opinion. Be it naive or otherwise, one can not just stop hoping.

 

[Verbose]

I think deep down we all know that the US has dirty hands from a lot of what's been going on post WWII.

It's interesting that having it pointed out, again, can actually cause a stir.

But of course, Pinter is a bit of a monomaniac about US perfidity. I guess it depends on how one views the conflicts the US has been involved in.
(They are all phony and by US making according to Pinter it seems. Not sure he's spot-on there.)

 

[Kosez]

At least one person that followed Chomsky's call.