hitler, stalin, mao......most of them have a similarity...

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well i was watching the children of brazil, where they clone hitler etc, and when i first heard of the movie i tought, that the movie was wrong cuz even u can clone someone the psychlogical self might be different but the movie also covered taht so i wondered........

i have realised that most mass mureder leaders of recent history.....well.........most had an abusive parent (mostly dad) and an overprotective mother......am i right here? is taht one of the factors for their later ways of thinking ??
 
Since when wasn't Georgia part of the USSR during Stalin's reign?

And since 1938 Austria was part of Germany as well. :p
 
yes but both have different cultures and Traditions and Georgia has been independent during the early 20's and Austria was part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire.
 
Hitler's father is not really known AFAIK
 
wahts AFAIk? well it is known taht he was not very nice.

also napoleon was not french but corcican
 
I would want to know more about the parents of each ones you mentionned. I know for the mother of Stalin but that's all. Did someone know about the parents of Mao? He was a farmer so itwould not surprised me that his childhood is almost unknown.


Originally posted by stalin006
also napoleon was not french but corcican

True but are you comparing Napoleon to Hitler? ;)
 
As good an ensemble performance as "The Boys from Brazil" is, it is not the ideal basis for a theory of the origins of dictators. It is an interesting observation, but the psychological effect of their upbringing is arguably not the pivotal factor - there are plenty who come from such backgrounds, but not all go onto become Hitler, Stalin or Mao...
 
Most people's personalities are born of their experiences in life. For example, I think that Hitler worked in a wealthy Jewish neighborhood as a youth, which may have begun his violent anti-semitic beliefs. Charles Manson grew up in an abusive home before starting his infamous career. However, I think that there are some people who are, for lack of a better word, "born evil." These people exhibit sociopathic behaviors early in life for no apparent reason. Serial killer Ted Bundy had a normal, middle class upbringing, but started attacking his babysitters with knives at the age of 6. I don't think Stalin, Hitler, or Mao fit this type, though.
 
The more bad you feel as a kid, the more intense becomes the desire to escape it, thus you're willing to work harder for it.
I think the number of peculiar personal features in Hitler, Mao, Stalin etc., comes from the number of experiences they had in life - bad experiences, something that really changed their look at someone, something. Not unsual. A lot of these prejudices, features often become irrational, though. Not usual, either.
But yet you can't properly apply a pattern which is universal when dealing with human beings - the upbringing is far from the only factor deciding one's course of life. Watched this program once, about human cannibals. One of the cannibals, forgot his name, had a totally normal childhood - with a warm, kind, and caring family. But when he started to bring home dead animals run over by traffic, and henceforth began to cut them up - his family started wondering. His father, a chemist, IIRC, taught him how to preserve bones, and that's when things got in motion.
He developed this desire to kill people and preserve them. He killed a lot of people, kept head, legs, and other body parts in his fridge and then ate them over a period of time. My point here is that the boy/man, he a completely normal infancy and childhood - but along with the rest of his fellow cannibals around the world - they all had one common deficiency: lack of activity in the frontal lobe, which simply meant that they were wholly incapable of feeling something for other people, i.e., love, grief, sorrow, emotional distress you name it. Shocking.
 
yes but both have different cultures and Traditions and Georgia has been independent during the early 20's and Austria was part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire.

Georgia was independent for a very short period. It joined USSR soon after in became independent from the Empire.
 
Originally posted by Bifrost


Georgia was independent for a very short period. It joined USSR soon after in became independent from the Empire.



Actually Georgia never really joined the USSR. The Soviets invaded and forced it into the union, as it did with most of the rest of the Transcaucasian area and the parts of Ukraine and Belarus that were unoccupied by the newly-independent Polish Republic. Bolshevik Communists were rising in that country but were never really able to take over and join the USSR on their own.:D
 
Regarding Austria, though that nation is quite similar to Germany, it hasn't been considered part of Germany anytime in recent history. Also, hasn't Corsica (Napoleon's birthplace) been part of France for a long time? If so, this would be more like a US president being born in Hawaii than Hitler being born in Austria.
 
no, corsica was part of italy i think, it became french during (or before) napoleons birth
 
Originally posted by stalin006
no, corsica was part of italy i think, it became french during (or before) napoleons birth

Indeed. And, before he gallicised his name, the little chap went by the distinctly more Italian-sounding monicker of Napoleone Buonaparte.
 
Regarding Hitler, if you want to do some reading on the topic, check out Ian Kershaw's recently published biography on the man, entitled "Hitler". It's two volumes. The first half of the first volume offers some wonderful insight into his early life including how stern his father was. I've only gotten through the first volume...it's about 600 pages...had to take a break before starting the second.
 
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