HOF Questions & Answers

[Morganknight]

Please help.

I have been searching for the UserSettings.ini file off and on for a couple of days now and have been unable to find it to make the necessary changes. Any advice or suggestions on how to find it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

 

[Peets]

In your users folder:

File: ..\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 5\UserSettings.ini

So for me:

C:\Users\Peets\Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 5\UserSettings.ini

 

[Morganknight]

Thank you so much!

 

[chuckh89]

So, I am not just asking a question cause I am lazy...Cause I spent a lot of the weekend looking at the Threads about the HOF as far back as the early days when BNW just started,....And I am still a little confused!

Instead of asking multiple questions...I will ask one, cause I think it might answer all of them for me. (Please Help guys, and not just CNC/HOF Staff guys-I would appreciate your input).

If you were beginning the the HOF, (also interested in completing the VVV) Where would you start, so that you move up the ranks as quickly as possible....And most Important (Why??)



What games would you choose?

Does a awesome performance at a game always make difference, or is sometimes just completing a category enough...??

I noticed that not going over the "Cap" matters. How do you know where this Cap is, so you are making the most of your efforts?


You can answer putting yourself in the situation, but I would appreciate if you took into consideration that I am not a Elite player.
(I would say I am 2 steps below, I play Diety...But don't dominate every game-For sure!, and my best efforts on Gauntlets are close to the top, but haven't managed to get in the top 3...If that helps) Not Elite, but I am getting better quickly...which is why I am motivated, and need your help to move forward. Thanks!!

One Last Thing
Thanks to Denniz/Sanabas (others contributing) for all that you do, especially with the HOF! When you spend a lot of time looking back at the old threads....You realize how much time and effort you guys put into making something truly awesome for the rest of us...It does not go unnoticed-Sincere Thank You!

 

[Peets]

Play each game with different settings, this will make you rise up fast.
Also play games which already played, gives you more points if you can beat the time or get very close to it.

 

[kcd_swede]

So, I am not just asking a question cause I am lazy...Cause I spent a lot of the weekend looking at the Threads about the HOF as far back as the early days when BNW just started,....And I am still a little confused!

Instead of asking multiple questions...I will ask one, cause I think it might answer all of them for me. (Please Help guys, and not just CNC/HOF Staff guys-I would appreciate your input).

If you were a beginning the the HOF, (also interested in completing the VVV) Where would you start, so that you move up the ranks as quickly as possible....And most Important (Why??)



What games would you choose?

Does a awesome performance at a game always make difference, or is sometimes just completing a category enough...??

I noticed that not going over the "Cap" matters. How do you know where this Cap is, so you are making the most of your efforts?


You can answer putting yourself in the situation, but I would appreciate if you took into consideration that I am not a Elite player.
(I would say I am 2 steps below, I play Diety...But don't dominate every game-For sure!, and my best efforts on Gauntlets are close to the top, but haven't managed to get in the top 3...If that helps) Not Elite, but I am getting better quickly...which is why I am motivated, and need your help to move forward. Thanks!!

One Last Thing
Thanks to Denniz/Sanabas (others contributing) for all that you do, especially with the HOF! When you spend a lot of time looking back at the old threads....You realize how much time and effort you guys put into making something truly awesome for the rest of us...It does not go unnoticed-Sincere Thank You!

Hi Chuckie,
What I did is look at the highest TSScoring games. It is amazing to me that a mediocre finish in a game that has lots of high scorers gives you so many points. In fact, before I looked at what other people got high scores for, I just picked ganes to fill up the various VVV categories. But then I saw one of the highest scoring game for Sanabas was a duel deity with Attila. I copied the settings and finished like 6th out of 12. No matter, it was one of my best (for score) games, even if its only like an 8 turn submisssion. I think the score system is a bit weird, that you get more reward for playing at Marathon speed than quick, even though its much easier game at Marathon speed.

Anyhow... a sub-medal perfformance on a high-scoring setting gives you many more points than a great game at a new setting. So check the tables before you play. Also, if you always end up far behind the winners, doing the same things better won't help. Try radically new things. Look at the logs of the games just makes me confused how things happen so fast. But in the end, I play games that are fun because what would be the point otherwise???

Note, the high level (Deity) games increase the value for VVV, even if it is duel bogus domination BS. You cab do well with that, but where's the fun? Anyhow, no... the score thing in VVV is so complicated that figuring out the optimum has not been enticing enough for me. But on occassion, to raiser your baseline, following a few high scorers in a category - even if you can't match their expertise, is more rewarding than just beating up on the low scoring games in the table to get medals.

Good luck, and have FUN!

 

[chuckh89]

Hi Chuckie,
What I did is look at the highest TSScoring games. It is amazing to me that a mediocre finish in a game that has lots of high scorers gives you so many points. In fact, before I looked at what other people got high scores for, I just picked ganes to fill up the various VVV categories. But then I saw one of the highest scoring game for Sanabas was a duel deity with Attila. I copied the settings and finished like 6th out of 12. No matter, it was one of my best (for score) games, even if its only like an 8 turn submisssion. I think the score system is a bit weird, that you get more reward for playing at Marathon speed than quick, even though its much easier game at Marathon speed.

Now I am starting to get somewhere,....I think?

So, when you are looking to duplicate games that others have played, You are looking at the "Welcome to the Civilization V Fastest finishes and High Scores" page.

http://hof.civfanatics.net/civ5/index.php?show=diff&pubID=80&dtSc=0&exp=2

Is this the table everyone is using as their reference page?


Now lets say I pick one of those games, and there are 10 people that have submitted with those conditions. I play the game, and am doing great then make a stupid mistake toward the end, and think "Man, I could do much better" should I still submit that game....??? (Maybe I finish, Like...9th) Can I resubmit, and override my 9th place finish with something better?

More input from others experience (on the original Question - #384)would be greatly appreciated!! (Thanks, KCD Swede)

 

[sanabas]

Now I am starting to get somewhere,....I think?

So, when you are looking to duplicate games that others have played, You are looking at the "Welcome to the Civilization V Fastest finishes and High Scores" page.

http://hof.civfanatics.net/civ5/index.php?show=diff&pubID=80&dtSc=0&exp=2

Is this the table everyone is using as their reference page?

Probably, yeah.

Now lets say I pick one of those games, and there are 10 people that have submitted with those conditions. I play the game, and am doing great then make a stupid mistake toward the end, and think "Man, I could do much better" should I still submit that game....??? (Maybe I finish, Like...9th) Can I resubmit, and override my 9th place finish with something better?

Yes, you should still submit. Yes, if you submit a better game later with the same settings, then it's that game that'll count.

More input from others experience (on the original Question - #384)would be greatly appreciated!! (Thanks, KCD Swede)

If your main aim is to finish the VVV, and try and get your score as high as possible as quickly as possible, then you'll want to pick out the games that will give the highest potential score as fast as possible, and then also play a bunch of 5 minute games regardless of score, in order to have one in each category.

These are typically going to be duel & domination games, though any table with say 6+ entries that you can comfortably complete a game on in a couple of hours will also be good. That said, you'll do even better by not focusing so much on the cheesy games, but instead playing a more balanced selection. e.g. Playing the most popular deity-duel-attila is good for ~170 points, and shouldn't take more than 30 minutes even with the need to reroll for a lucky start. You can only do that once however. But just beating a standard deity game on an empty table will also give ~170 points. And will be more fun than a formulaic duel game (at least it is for me), and then you can do it again with a new civ, new VC, new maptype. On the lower levels, it's going to be the more 'normal' games that give you the best score quickly, as those are the crowded tables rather than the duel spam.

So I'd say just play a dozen or two more varied games, picking more crowded tables if you want, see how you go. Then play a dozen 5 minute duel games not worrying about score just to finish off the VVV requirements. Then you can start looking at how to improve your score if you want to.

 

[teqofc]

If you were beginning the the HOF, (also interested in completing the VVV) Where would you start, so that you move up the ranks as quickly as possible....And most Important (Why??)

I can't speak for others but I don't care about ranks, the only reason I started playing HoF games was for the personal challenge. No reloads under any condition(except crash) makes for a really intense game especially the late stages were you are so close and then something horrible goes wrong

 

[TractorBoy]

the only reason I started playing HoF games was for the personal challenge. No reloads under any condition(except crash) makes for a really intense game especially the late stages were you are so close and then something horrible goes wrong

Did I write this! Seriously though, the HOF rules keep our propensity to take a risk, then when all goes wrong, to then reload in check, which in my case has been a good thing. Simple things like your first trireme, wanting to take the fourth move into the fog, well I don't risk it on the HOF (three moves only). The first settler un attended, I never do this.

I did find on the Vanilla HOF VVV that doing well became a personal challenge, but in my case I kind of knew it would. I have played my last Vanilla game now and have deleted all things Civ from my hard drive.

I am considering purchasing BNW in the not to distant future and if I did I would go straight to the HOF. Like other posters I am completely baffled by the VVV scoring system. Also there is a lot about BNW that I am not to keen on, having said that there is even more about Civ6 that I don't like the look of! As a true Civ fanatic I need something to keep my grey cells ticking over on those cold winter nights, not sure which way to go yet.

Good luck and good gaming to all.

 

[Smirk]

Question about the official Explorers map pack, can we use them for HS, if not why? I love this pangea plus map. Finally I can actually settle natural wonders and not have to rush buy the square away from a CS.
Although, Im sure for many victories this is non-ideal...

 

[Bleidraner]

@Sanabas or any HOF staff
I made a mistake in one of my submissions and while I submitted three correct files (initial and intermediates) I made a mistake and submitted a terrible final file from a different game. I fixed this by making a new submission with the correct game, and that was accepted but is there a way to take my wrong submission down? Just trying to save you guys some work.

 

[Denniz]

@Sanabas or any HOF staff
I made a mistake in one of my submissions and while I submitted three correct files (initial and intermediates) I made a mistake and submitted a terrible final file from a different game. I fixed this by making a new submission with the correct game, and that was accepted but is there a way to take my wrong submission down? Just trying to save you guys some work.

Deleted it.

 

[Bleidraner]

Deleted it.

Thank you Denniz

 

[OldEarthRelic]

I got redirected here. Will there be a Civ:BE HOF?

 

[JWideman]

Does the VVV table only count only for the current update? Do we only have 15 days (on average) to play a minimum of 43 games?

 

[sanabas]

No. It's months since I submitted a game, I'm still on the VVV table somewhere.

 

[OldEarthRelic]

The HOF Summary doesn't seem accurate - Merculis has dozens of BNW gold medals, but isn't listed? Is there some other criteria to get you medals counted towards the summary?

 

[OldEarthRelic]

Figured it out - sorry for wasting everyone's time

 

[Folket]

I got redirected here. Will there be a Civ:BE HOF?

Been looking for a comment on this. But then I played like one HoF game in civ5.