How did this happen?
- Thread starter Turner
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pdescobar
Moo, baby. Moo.
I would assume it's the same as the How is this possible thread about 10 below yours on the Site Feedback front page 
Not a bad point, but the other one lead to an invalid link, and this one I was able to read. . .I've been thinking about it, and I suspect it's a timing issure. Although ainwood seems to be pretty close, too.
pdescobar
Moo, baby. Moo.
While the original link in that thread is now "deleted", the ones posted by myself and ainwood in that thread are both still valid threads where the original post did not appear; the first post in each thread is a reply because the server horked as the thread was originally posted. Those and your screenshot of a thread with zero views and replies looks like the same problem to me, and server load problems are the only reasonable explanation I've seen for them.
Extremely "lucky" timing on your part is of course potentially possible but given the load on the server, I'd say the latter is far more likely. In fact, depending on exactly how the system works, if Darius posted his message and then got "server busy" when he was taken to view it the explanation could actually be both
Extremely "lucky" timing on your part is of course potentially possible but given the load on the server, I'd say the latter is far more likely. In fact, depending on exactly how the system works, if Darius posted his message and then got "server busy" when he was taken to view it the explanation could actually be both
Something similar happened to me yesterday too. I posted a reply in the CivIII->GOTM->Quick Games Forum when the server was having difficulties. Anyway the Forum shows Greebley as the last poster even though clearly my post is the most recent one. Greebley's post is the post before mine in the same thread.
I always assumed that your postcount is increased right when the post is submitted, not when you're taken back to it. Is this not right? If it's not, then what if you x-out the screen that's saying it is taking you back to your post before it takes you there? Will your PC not be increased until you load your post from the thread, or maybe it will never be increased by that one post? That doesn't make sense to me.Originally posted by pdescobar
In fact, depending on exactly how the system works, if Darius posted his message and then got "server busy" when he was taken to view it the explanation could actually be both
pdescobar
Moo, baby. Moo.
WillJ: this isn't exactly about postcount. Turner's screenshot shows a thread with zero *replies* (not necessarily zero posts) and zero views. He is right that without further information (namely was the first post actually there) this could be slightly different than what was happening in the other thread. What I meant in the passage you quoted from me is the following:
1) Darius types a new message and hits "submit."
2) The system posts the thread, ups his PC and displays the "thank you" screen.
3) His browser processes the meta refresh on the thank you screen and requests to see the post.
4) Things get real busy.
5) Because the server load is over some threshold, instead of displaying the post (and upping the view count) he gets the "server busy" message.
6) Load drops a bit and Turner gets the index page before anyone else views the thread and sees the 0/0.
The result of that scenario, assuming counts are processed at the times I have guessed, is a new thread with an actual post but zero views and zero replies. The simple timing alternative would be that #6 above occurred in the very small amount of time between #2 and the server processing the view request of #3 and this was followed by Darius seeing his post just as one normally would and the view count becoming one at that time.
For what it's worth, my guess on PC is that it is increased when the system enters your message into the database following "submit" and not when you are taken back to it.
1) Darius types a new message and hits "submit."
2) The system posts the thread, ups his PC and displays the "thank you" screen.
3) His browser processes the meta refresh on the thank you screen and requests to see the post.
4) Things get real busy.
5) Because the server load is over some threshold, instead of displaying the post (and upping the view count) he gets the "server busy" message.
6) Load drops a bit and Turner gets the index page before anyone else views the thread and sees the 0/0.
The result of that scenario, assuming counts are processed at the times I have guessed, is a new thread with an actual post but zero views and zero replies. The simple timing alternative would be that #6 above occurred in the very small amount of time between #2 and the server processing the view request of #3 and this was followed by Darius seeing his post just as one normally would and the view count becoming one at that time.
For what it's worth, my guess on PC is that it is increased when the system enters your message into the database following "submit" and not when you are taken back to it.
Excellent analysis, pd. I was suspecting something like that, but wasn't sure. 
