I am trucking along in my game right now. I actually have won by cultrual victory, but I want to keep going to see how hard combat become late in the game. I have two targets that I want to take. The Zulu and the English have a MPP and I want to take their civ's to task. I play as a Republic due to lower coruption, better science, and lower war weariness. I know that if I can get them to declare war on me I get a few truns free of ww but I canot seem to get them to take the bait. What are some ways that you have gotten civ's to declare war? By the way I know that a two front war is risky, but I have a stack of 25 artiliery, 35 tanks, 15 cavalry, 3 cavalry armies, 1 marine army, and 6 mech infantry ready to go, so I do not worry about a drag on troops. Also I could have about 50 more units at the front with in 10 turns along with about 20 workers to build RR to new cities. How can I get them to attack me so I am the defender? I got Babylon to declare war by planting a spy until they had enough, but I already have spies in both civ's.
How do you get someone to declare war?
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Dralix
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Try using your spy. If the spy fails, and you don't get war, plant another one and try again.
Also, an easy way to get someone mad at you is to repeatedly offer a bad trade, or demand tribute. Just keep clicking the "will you accept this" button until their attitude changes. Then, when they are annoyed or furious, try your spy.
Also, an easy way to get someone mad at you is to repeatedly offer a bad trade, or demand tribute. Just keep clicking the "will you accept this" button until their attitude changes. Then, when they are annoyed or furious, try your spy.
sealman
Hater of Babylonians
Have a settler build a city in his territory. This will trigger a war.
sealman
Hater of Babylonians
whoops 
I guess those black marks on my reputation are justified.
I guess those black marks on my reputation are justified.
sealman
Hater of Babylonians
Originally posted by Hawkster
Another method is to keep putting units in the area of thier control - you should keep getting asked to leave. Ignore them and eventually they should declare war on you.
May take a few turns though if they are polite to you.
This never works for me. I always end up having to move my troops or declar war
Hopefully I will get to play tonight. I am going to try a few differnt ploys to bait them into attcking. I will try to blow things up with my spy and I am going to send my troop wandering around their land. I will post my results when I do.
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Update on getting someone to take the bait.
I was only able to play about 4 turns last night, but the results look promising
On each turn I put two cavalry armies and two cavalry units next to one of his cities. When he told me to move them I also demanded his treasury. So, as of right now I have a pissed off Shaka, but no war. I do however think that I can goad him into one in another 4 turns. I am going to try making a few explorers and send them all over his land and see what that does.
On a side note. Is there an area where I can see what my rep is? I was negotiating a trade deal with the Russians and they said no due to my betrayal of the Persians. The only interaction that I had with them was a war alliance with them against the Babylonians, who I killed off. How could this be a betrayal of them?
I was only able to play about 4 turns last night, but the results look promising
On each turn I put two cavalry armies and two cavalry units next to one of his cities. When he told me to move them I also demanded his treasury. So, as of right now I have a pissed off Shaka, but no war. I do however think that I can goad him into one in another 4 turns. I am going to try making a few explorers and send them all over his land and see what that does. On a side note. Is there an area where I can see what my rep is? I was negotiating a trade deal with the Russians and they said no due to my betrayal of the Persians. The only interaction that I had with them was a war alliance with them against the Babylonians, who I killed off. How could this be a betrayal of them?
sealman
Hater of Babylonians
You did not read the fine print. The Persians were supposed to finish of the Babylonians, not you.
philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
if you ask al the time for a city they will get mad and
mayby (i had that many times)they come into your terretory
and if you ask them to leave they declare war anfd your repitation is good
and then you kill them all![punch] :rocket2: :ripper:
:alien: :skull: :soldier: :shotgun:
mayby (i had that many times)they come into your terretory
and if you ask them to leave they declare war anfd your repitation is good
and then you kill them all![punch] :rocket2: :ripper:
:alien: :skull: :soldier: :shotgun:
Park Ranger
Wonder hog
Had a recent experience using the MPP to get into a war with a friendly civ.
Was attacking Japanese, moving in on Kyoto which had Pyramids and Leonardo's. Indians (my "friends") got there first. Next turn I signed peace treaty with the Japanese, and threw in a MPP. Then the Indians attack the last Jap city, and presto! War between me and Indians. Three turns later Japs are gone, I now have Kyoto and those 2 Wonders.
I realize this scenario depended on a lot of circumstances going my way, but the point is the MPP can be a great route to war with no hurt to reputation. Can backfire, though....
Another possibility: you have a spy planted, so keep trying to "expose enemy spy" on civ you want war with. Maybe they'lll get annoyed to the point of declaring war, I dunno.
Was attacking Japanese, moving in on Kyoto which had Pyramids and Leonardo's. Indians (my "friends") got there first. Next turn I signed peace treaty with the Japanese, and threw in a MPP. Then the Indians attack the last Jap city, and presto! War between me and Indians. Three turns later Japs are gone, I now have Kyoto and those 2 Wonders.
I realize this scenario depended on a lot of circumstances going my way, but the point is the MPP can be a great route to war with no hurt to reputation. Can backfire, though....
Another possibility: you have a spy planted, so keep trying to "expose enemy spy" on civ you want war with. Maybe they'lll get annoyed to the point of declaring war, I dunno.
If you do not have any right to pass agreement with him, and he has any ships inside your border, try this...Demand anything fore free from him (cities, gold or something), and repeat it until he has become furious. Then demand him to redraw his ships out of your territory. Then he will declare war against you. It works fore me every time.
Actually in my last game, I managed to use propaganda successfully against three cities. It took 2 attempts against Abe's (Monarchy) Buffalo (size 4) at a cost of ~450 an attempt. It took 6 attempts against Mao's (Communist) Anayang (size 5) at a cost of ~150 an attempt. I got Shaka's (Anarchy) city (size 6) in one attempt at a cost of around 600. I was in Democracy, the culture leader, and playing at Emperor level. All the cities were candiates for flipping my way.
Espionage has got a bad rap IMNSHO.
