How does "it just way to crowded" works?
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punkbass2000
Des An artiste
Every citizen beyond a certain limit(depending on difficulty) is automatically unhappy because 'it is just way too crowded'. The entertainer doesn't reduce the crowdedness, it just provides luxuries that make life more bearable.
On Chieftain, 4 citizens in each city are automatically content. (The fifth citizen will be unhappy unless you do something to make him content, such as building a temple or putting a unit in the city)
On Warlord, 3 citizens are born content. (The fourth citizen will be unhappy unless you make him content.)
On Regent or Monarch, only 2 citizens are born content.
On all levels higher than that, only the first citizen will be automatically content.
On Warlord, 3 citizens are born content. (The fourth citizen will be unhappy unless you make him content.)
On Regent or Monarch, only 2 citizens are born content.
On all levels higher than that, only the first citizen will be automatically content.
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
Yes, all citizens past the limit will be unhappy without some sort of happiness or contentness causing intervention (luxes, imorivements, MPs, etc.)
I have found that my people are happy if there are 6 people in a town but they say it is too crowded if there is a seventh citizen there, I have observed that they don't complain about crowdedness if there is less than one person over the town size so a city cannot be happy with citizen number if there are 13 citizens in it as there are normally allowed to be only 12.
Akka
Moody old mage.
No. There is no complicated formula with voodoo reasons ^^
Pas the limit, EVERY citizen is unhappy, and you have to use happy-generating builduings, wonders, luxury settings and/or specialist to change that.
Pas the limit, EVERY citizen is unhappy, and you have to use happy-generating builduings, wonders, luxury settings and/or specialist to change that.
It simply means you have passed the happiness/content limit of your citizens (due to luxuries/improvements/etc), and this is the "default" message to tell you that. You will see there are few other messages to show you unhappiness such as "the oppression you have born down on our mother country" when you take over an enemy city. So go find more happiness resources and link them by road to the city, or adjust your luxury slider, or simply make entertainers (or scientists etc. preferably).
Pfeffersack
Deity
Sobassis said:
There if no such effect.A town becomes a city if it reaches pop 7 and a metropolis if it reaches pop 13.Overpopulation ("too crowded") is just what the others have postet - every citizien over 1/2/3/4, depending on difficulty, if you do not make him content via wonders, improvments, luxuries, lux slider, MP, war happiness etc.
Bast
Protector of Cats
There should be a government that eliminates "unhappiness". Or lowers it like commercial with corruption.
In fact, I think it should be religious that lowers unhappiness.
In fact, I think it should be religious that lowers unhappiness.
Bast said:
Civ2 had that with fanaticism and found that it was way too overpowered for going to war with (drawback of no science but who cares). Also when you were in that government, when you lost your city you would get free fanatic units which were a pain to kill if they spew out onto mountains. I think c3c has almost got it right with balancing, just a few more tweaks and we might have a perfectly balanced civ4. Sigh if wishes were horses...
Volstag
Chairman of the Bored
The "it's too crowded" is somewhat of a misnomer. It confused the heck outta me when I first started playing. What they really should say is: "I'm not happy. Give me more luxuries, or entertainers, or a temple, or a cathedral, or military police, etc, etc."
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