How I won on revolutionary..

just won on hardest difficulty in the 80th turn :). i will try to push it even lower, it's quite fun :) i was too strong, i could have won with less military maybe 10-15 turns sooner :)
 
Also have one at 1595 (epic speed.). :) Could have been faster as well.
You really can reduce it to the minimum if you do it right. :)

Also if possible the natives-trading and treasures take well enough care of a decent economy. No need to waste time producing inexpensive trade-goods or improving land (roads are enough.)

Also next time ill use rtba and all men are free to better effect. Those colonists are easily on par with soldiers and in terrain with dragoons (while defending). The REF does try to attack as long as it has enough base-garrison for its colonies and attacking 4,5 Str defenders does kill some of them or wounds attackers quite reliably. No need to invest that much into guns + horses when regular colonists just do as well. The professionals are enough for finishing off wounded units.

And natives make for decent allies in the WoI with the 2 or 3? founding fathers improving relations. :)

I whould even go as fas as to say the natives can do the part of feeding the few bigger settlements around by buying food from them... So you can go all out carpenters + lumberjacks and later statesmen (trained 5 of those. Didn't last all to long...).


Oh and i didn't bother to manufacture tools and guns or horses by myself. Buying from europe did suffice. Its a bit risky if battles turn really sour (lost a few 90% ones. :() but if the odds are right its just enough... :)
 
Using a variation of the exploit I managed to win on revolutianary in 98 turns with the OCC setting on a large map. The other settings were defaults.

Basically you don't need a colony. Use your first two guys hitting indian villages, then found your colony. It should meet three requirements:

1. Inland, so amphibious attacks are not possible.

2. Near a decent forest, cause you want some wood.

3. With decent food so you don't have to worry about feeding your statesmen later.

Initially I used the treasure gold from my two settlers to setup an initial musket trade with the indians and started producing political points to get Peter Minuit.
The dutch were nearby, so I killed them with my soldier for a free pioneer and uncontested villages. I was lucky with the recruits and got a statesman and a seasoned scout cheaply from the docks. The statesman worked on bells to get Peter and afterwards improved the land around my colony. The scout explored the map and I continued trading guns and horses to the natives. Peter arrived pretty quickly and I could buy a galleon and started producing a wagon train and a printing press in my colony.

The treasures and trading netted me enough money for 5 veteran dragoons and 2 normal ones, 2 additional elder statesmen and a newspaper. I deleted the colonists which I didn't need and put the statesmen to work. The dragoons killed a few natives for experience and the elder statesmen quickly got me over the 50% marker. I declared independence and waited for the king to send his 15 regulars 8 dragoons and 5 artillery. With Bolivar's bonus and the experience from the dragoons the fights were pretty onesided, although I did lose 2 Dragoons

So I won a game on the hardest difficulty setting without ever producing a processed good, without producing a single cross and without using more than one unit type.

You are the man :king:
 
So when are they going to release a patch for a half-finished product that they didn't even playtest? I installed the game, played it a few times and put it back on the shelf straight away .. and went back to Colonization 1. Good going Firaxis.
 
So when are they going to release a patch for a half-finished product that they didn't even playtest? I installed the game, played it a few times and put it back on the shelf straight away .. and went back to Colonization 1. Good going Firaxis.

Just because the elites here found a better way to exploit the win does not mean the game is not fun , man.

It is still a good game, you dont have to shelf it. :p
 
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