I am crap at this game
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thetrooper
Misanthrope
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What you are doing wrong? Difficult question. Can you post a screenshot or upload a savefile? It is easier to judge if we can see what you are doing. Check out the War Academy and/or sub-forum "Strategy Articles".
One big thing I'd noticed with myself and my friends making the Civ2->Civ3 transition: Mine grasslands. You couldn't in Civ2 (wound up with a forest), but in this one you can, and it's typically advisable given most cities (unless they have a lot of low-food hills and mountains), especially early on, since while you're in despotism, you will not get any bonus for irrigating a standard grassland (in despo, all tile yields greater than 2 get reduced by one). Basically, in the very early game, mining a bonus grassland is one of the best semi-standard tiles you can get, as you'll have 2 food and 2 shields, and won't be losing anything to the despo penalty (had you irrigated said tile, you'd only be getting (3-1=2) food and 1 shield). Granted, this is a huge shot in the dark, but it was one of the biggest revelations I noticed in the transitions I've witnessed.
Otherwise, just notch the difficulty down a little, and practice up! Best of luck!
Otherwise, just notch the difficulty down a little, and practice up! Best of luck!
For starters, read all the articles here. They will greatly help you to understand and beat the game (there are articles about science, commerce, wars, city founding, almost anything!). Also, try following one or two stories or succession games. This will help you understand how other people play the game, and will teach you some of the best ways to play civ. Enjoy yourself!
Forget what you know or think you know about civ2 and read some of the war academy articles for beginners. Many of the tactics that worked in civ2 doesn't work anymore, and many game mechanics also changed(if not all).
I felt exactly the same when i changed, going from emperor in civ2 to chieftain in civ3 and had to practice a lot to raise my skill.
And last: no one is crap at this game, you just need a bit of practicing, thats all
Theoden
I felt exactly the same when i changed, going from emperor in civ2 to chieftain in civ3 and had to practice a lot to raise my skill.
And last: no one is crap at this game, you just need a bit of practicing, thats all
Theoden
Tomoyo
Fate
Based on your information, I would suggest not building wonders at all.
And civ2 strategies don't work with civ3.
And civ2 strategies don't work with civ3.
FreeTheSlaves
Chieftain
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Wonders are gravy.
The most recent game I won, I didn't get any ancient wonders and only Adam Smiths/Leonardos before domination. In hindsight Adam Smiths was a waste of resources and Leonardo's just accelerated a winning position.
I no longer care about wonders as I did that's for sure.
The most recent game I won, I didn't get any ancient wonders and only Adam Smiths/Leonardos before domination. In hindsight Adam Smiths was a waste of resources and Leonardo's just accelerated a winning position.
I no longer care about wonders as I did that's for sure.
michael4000
The Culture
Yeah, in the War Academy there is an awesome article on Wonder Addiction. It has been instrumental in getting my game from "crap" to "mediocre" really quickly. (I'm hoping to get to "pretty good," eventually).
The biggest thing I had to adjust to in moving from CIV II to CIV III is how important and how much more complex trading is. If you have a CIV II mindset, it's easy to neglect contact with other nations, but you need to get in there and trade, trade, trade. A little confusing at first, but you get the hang of it quickly.
Also, make sure you know how culture works. Definitely make sure you are building some of the improvements that generate culture, or your cities will start to jump ship, which is always an unpleasant surprise.
Also, these forums are awesome. Check in frequently and read the threads here and on the strategies page -- most of these guys are wicked good players and great at giving advice.
The biggest thing I had to adjust to in moving from CIV II to CIV III is how important and how much more complex trading is. If you have a CIV II mindset, it's easy to neglect contact with other nations, but you need to get in there and trade, trade, trade. A little confusing at first, but you get the hang of it quickly.
Also, make sure you know how culture works. Definitely make sure you are building some of the improvements that generate culture, or your cities will start to jump ship, which is always an unpleasant surprise.
Also, these forums are awesome. Check in frequently and read the threads here and on the strategies page -- most of these guys are wicked good players and great at giving advice.
donsig
Low level intermediary
Join the demogame. You can learn alot about Civ III there and you'll have fun, too.
Mescalhead
Vincebus Eruptum
Ginger Ale said to read all articles, and he is giving good advice. But if you are advised to do that, you probably won't. There is simply a lot of advice on there, and you will eventually itch to play too much and not finish it. While most of the info is very good, some of it is more specific. I am not a great player, I usually play on monarch, but I'll point you to the articles that helped me the most. Though I myself have not read them all. So, if I leave any out don't disreagard them, especially if their title deals with a specific trouble area.
The Four Rules of Wonder Addiction
Tutorial: Babylon's Deity Settlers
Cracker's Civ 3 Opening Plays Site
Expansion Tip: Outside In
The Art of War Q&A
Also before playing a specific civilization, check out Ision's Civ-specifc guides. I think reviews of all are now available.
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The best advice I can give is expand early and aggresively. If you don't start with pottery, get it immediately. I build two warriors (or scouts if expansionist) send 'em out and then (pre-build if necessary) a granary.
Afterward I alternate with warrior/settler (always protect your settlers) in my capital until my land is built up. The rest of my cities are focusing on barracks, defensive units, workers (lots! on a standard map I try to get about 10 in the Ancient age, and thereafter about 20-30), temples, granaries-in that order.
Then build up a huge assortment of either swordsmen, or horsemen, switch to Monarchy, and blitz my most powerful neigbor. I then take in as much of his empire as I want.
I take a break from war building aqueducts (if needed), libraries, marketplaces, and happiness improvements if necessary. Build my next generation army and go for the next most powerful bordering nation. I always win this way.
The Four Rules of Wonder Addiction
Tutorial: Babylon's Deity Settlers
Cracker's Civ 3 Opening Plays Site
Expansion Tip: Outside In
The Art of War Q&A
Also before playing a specific civilization, check out Ision's Civ-specifc guides. I think reviews of all are now available.
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The best advice I can give is expand early and aggresively. If you don't start with pottery, get it immediately. I build two warriors (or scouts if expansionist) send 'em out and then (pre-build if necessary) a granary.
Afterward I alternate with warrior/settler (always protect your settlers) in my capital until my land is built up. The rest of my cities are focusing on barracks, defensive units, workers (lots! on a standard map I try to get about 10 in the Ancient age, and thereafter about 20-30), temples, granaries-in that order.
Then build up a huge assortment of either swordsmen, or horsemen, switch to Monarchy, and blitz my most powerful neigbor. I then take in as much of his empire as I want.
I take a break from war building aqueducts (if needed), libraries, marketplaces, and happiness improvements if necessary. Build my next generation army and go for the next most powerful bordering nation. I always win this way.
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
Wouldn't necessarily say Civ3 is that much more difficult than Civ2. More complicated, sure. More difficult, not necessarily. Depends a lot on your Civ2 playing style. If your only strategy was Wonders, Wonders and Wonders, and conquering the world ASAP, you'll have problems in Civ3. If you choosed the hard road in Civ2 (I nearly exclusively played from the most challenging starting positions in scnearios), you won't have much problems in Civ3.
Was a mid-level Civ2 player, but I never played Civ3 below Regent. And after abandoning my very first trial, I always won when I reached ~10AD.
However, Civ3 Emperor is something completely different than Civ2...
Was a mid-level Civ2 player, but I never played Civ3 below Regent. And after abandoning my very first trial, I always won when I reached ~10AD.
However, Civ3 Emperor is something completely different than Civ2...
KabeDerlin
Prince
Also one of the most important pieces of advice. Don't be afraid to lose a little. Even a lost game can be a success as long as your walking away with something. I'm just barely a Monarch player and every now and then I like to jump to Diety and get my butt kicked. It's a great learning experience.
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