I cheat !

[loki]

Well...I don't have a lot of free time to devote to CIV, though I really enjoy playing it.
I must admit I cheat to get the max out of my playing time
I only play on huge maps, and as I am a civ builder, I like to have a lot of good quality free space to expand.
What I do is planting my first city, then I save and retire. This gives me the opportunity to check the whole map, and look at where the closest civ is. I usually restart if there are more than one civ on my continent.
Sometime, I just try for half an hour restarting games, just to get a good position.
I usually forget about the map after a couple of hours, so I don't quite remember where all the others are...

Are there many people out there like myself ? Or am I just the only blatant cheater on this forum?

loki

 

[OneInTen]

Surely you'd be better off using the map editor to randomly generate a map where you know there is at least one suitable starting position, and then loading the map and starting on it until you get one of those positions.

At least it would have to be better than spending half an hour restarting.

 

[loki]

Not really, because using the map editor would show me where the ressources are. This would be a huge spoiler, I think.
Nothing better than going on for a strategic ressource war with your neighbours.

loki

 

[Headmaster]

Originally posted by loki
Well...I don't have a lot of free time to devote to CIV

[...]

Sometime, I just try for half an hour restarting games, just to get a good position.

Just play

 

[Cerryl]

Whatever's fun for you, that's what counts.

For me, the juice is the challenge of possibly losing.

 

[BigBirdZ28]

YOUR SO EXACTLY LIKE ME IT'S SHOCKING !!!!!!!!

 

[dutcheese]

i cheat too sometimes...

especially when learning to play. don't you hate it when you sent your ship out on the long haul and didn't know it wouldn't stop when spotting the enemy and ends it's turn right in the middle of their fleet...

or when you sent your tactical nuke into enemy territory thinking you can strike a city deep inside but next turn you can't even find the nuke.

or when you are tired and ment to move all your pieces but forgot that one fortified piece...

 

[gonzo_for_civ]

I agree with headmaster, just play. If you lose, oh well. If you get a horrible start, oh well. Being in those situations makes it much more fun!

 

[Moulton]

Sometimes I am in the mood just to build, and want to be left alone. Sometimes total war is the game.
What I hate is to be on a huge map, with any number of opponents--even 2 or 3 -- and they are all 5 squares a part. And the rest of the 80% of the world stays black for 4000 years.
Challenge is the fun, but if I am in the mood to just build, the building the most perfect layout and highly developed civ is challenge enough.

 

[Eastman]

Originally posted by loki
What I do is planting my first city, then I save and retire. This gives me the opportunity to check the whole map......

How do you check the whole map from a saved file?

 

[PekkaM]

I do the restarting thing, especially when aiming for one city cultural victory. Last time I won with Babylonians, I had a coastal riverside city, with five cattle (had to place city on one of those though). I won somewhere in 1700's with all 17 wonders built so far in my capitol Babylon. Now I have one ongoing culture game also with babylons, my capitol is inland riverside city this time, but with 5 cattle I have to admit, it gets pretty boring, cause there simply is nothing to stop you from winning this way and I wish I could turn the cultural victory off in midgame, cause in the latter game I'm dominating in other ways too (regent difficulty as usual, I hate losing wonders to AI with build bonus ).

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

i restart when i don`t like the starting position. try playing 16 civ, tiny map, deity when you start with jungle only terrain..... pointless, and i´m not a maso!

 

[Candian.Gloworm]

I don't get much playing time (wifebug2.2), I play on a tiny map with 16 civs and go from there. I like the challenge and when I start with nothing but tundra and glaciers around me makes it very interesting.

But if it makes you happy to do that and you get the enjoyment out of it, than KEEP THE GOOD WORK UP!!!!!

 

[Lt. 'Killer' M.]

Originally posted by Candian.Gloworm
I don't get much playing time (wifebug2.2), I play on a tiny map with 16 civs and go from there. I like the challenge and when I start with nothing but tundra and glaciers around me makes it very interesting.

But if it makes you happy to do that and you get the enjoyment out of it, than KEEP THE GOOD WORK UP!!!!!

what level do you play on? on deity I won`t even get past ironwork when someone starts a war, unless i have a good starting position.....

 

[Candian.Gloworm]

I play on regent.
I have only won once out of about 6 games.

 

[Moulton]

I am currently on REgent. Will stay until it gets comfortable.
Here is a thougt... Giving your self advanteges essentially negates the AI advantage that may be there, or at least mollifies it.
But, Playing on a lower level is not the same. The Play itself is different. The AI is simply not as aggressive, and the game gets boring. Higher levels generate much more action, you have to stay on your toes. and it becomes much more challenge, not just because of the build speed advantages. ANd no, I am not talking AI cheating. It is just a more fun game. However, if you want the fun of the more complex and aggressive game, but want to reduce risk at the same time.....

 

[kundor]

Originally posted by loki
Well...I don't have a lot of free time to devote to CIV, though I really enjoy playing it.
I must admit I cheat to get the max out of my playing time
I only play on huge maps, and as I am a civ builder, I like to have a lot of good quality free space to expand.
What I do is planting my first city, then I save and retire. This gives me the opportunity to check the whole map, and look at where the closest civ is. I usually restart if there are more than one civ on my continent.
Sometime, I just try for half an hour restarting games, just to get a good position.
I usually forget about the map after a couple of hours, so I don't quite remember where all the others are...

Are there many people out there like myself ? Or am I just the only blatant cheater on this forum?

loki

If you like your solitude...rather than reload cheating, you can use the editor to change the rules slightly. Open civ3mod, go to edit rules, then under map size or something you can change the minimum tile distance between civs for each map size. choose huge (or whatever size you use) and up the number for the tile distance, the ai should be farther away.

 

[Zouave]

Originally posted by loki
. . .
Are there many people out there like myself ? Or am I just the only blatant cheater on this forum?

loki

By far the biggest CHEATER in Civ III is the damn AI. It cheats in so many ways: ocean-going galleys, free techs to rival civs, info on resources, trade perks, whatever.

So cheat away! The AI does it, why not you?

I wish there was no cheating at all, but to beat a cheater you have to cheat.

 

[loki]

Originally posted by kundor


If you like your solitude...rather than reload cheating, you can use the editor to change the rules slightly. Open civ3mod, go to edit rules, then under map size or something you can change the minimum tile distance between civs for each map size. choose huge (or whatever size you use) and up the number for the tile distance, the ai should be farther away.

oooh ! That's actually a very good idea ! I didn't know it was possible, I might just only try that.

I wish it would be possible to have a smarter AI, without the huge bonuses : i.e emperor or deity class AI, without being in stone age when your rivals are hitting late middle age with all the wonders and zillions of units.

loki

 

[icon]

I also use that strategy, I also sometimes print out the map so i can draw a most optimal city plan. I dont call i cheat it is just a different way of playing.

I have used it in Civ 1 2 and 3