I found a good way to deal with Anarchy

[sabo]

I was in a Republic government and Persia had declared war against me cuz I wouldn't give them my territory map WHAAA!!!
The war had been going on for some quite time and the People were starting to get antsy even though the war was declared on me. The only governement discoveries I had were Despot, Republic, and Monarchy, mainly because I was trying to catch up in other area's (which I did through alot a wheeling and dealing) I had no Police stations or Universal Sufferage. My only recourse was to go back to Monarchy. I read somewhere here that the happier they are the less Anarchy you suffer. I hit F1, clicked the revolution button and slid my giggle bar over to 100%. You just have to deal with the money loss for one turn. Anarchy was only 2 turns rather than the standard 5 to 7. Problem sovled. I'm playing the Germans.

But here's the rest of the story. While I was in Anarchy, Persia made peace with me so I decided to go back to Republic. That lasted one turn then Persia made war with England with which I had a MPP with. Now I'm back in a war with Persia and my people are as PO'ed as ever. At least communism is just around the corner in 4 turns. Personally I don't think Anarchy should be an issue if there are loopholes. And what ever happened to the wonder that CIV II had that elimnated Anarchy? does anyone know why the left that out in CIV III? Or was Universal Sufferage replacing that.

 

[Sullla]

There is no wonder that eliminates anarchy, but playing as a religious civ will always result in one turn of anarchy - very helpful. I see you are eagerly awaiting communism... may I ask why? Monarchy, with its ability to use money to rush projects, is far superior to communism's pop rushing and communal corruption.

As for the idea that increased happiness results in fewer turns of anarchy... I've never seen this result myself. Are you sure about this? I think you may have simply lucked out and received the minimum transition time. Is this your conclusion from multiple tests, or just one occurrance? I'm curious.

 

[Concona]

Yes i don`t get it to, what the heck is wrong with Monarchy, look at Russia, it didn`t help them.
But why don`t you buy some things like Monarchy, if that is a possibility offcourse

Bye Bye

 

[sabo]

Oops, I made a mistake, I have to keep the happiness up through the anarchy but after the revolution I toned it down to about 60% so I wouldn't go bankrupt. There isn't anything wrong with Monarchy I like it, the only reason for Communism is because I have a large empire and it helps with corruption, although I don't like corruption in my capitol. I don't know, maybe it was a fluke, but as you can see by my original post I had to go back to square one so I'm right in the middle of doing it again. I let you know

 

[sabo]

ps.. buy the way. While I was in Anarchy I was able to get Communism from my buddy and ally Shaka, (normally he's a pain but in this game he's pretty civil) I had to give him my shirt though. Gems, Furs, Money, and map.

 

[sabo]

OK, I did it again with the same results. I went into anarchy in 1776 and went to communism in 1780, 2 turns. I'm tired everyone so cut me a little slack, I forgot the slider bars don't mean diddly when your in Anarchy, the reason I THOUGHT I was making more money when I slid it back down at the beginning of Anarchy was because I went into Anarchy, DUH!!! But that poses ANOTHER question, if the giggle bar doesn't do anything in Anarchy then was my short Anarchy period due to all the comedians I have? If that's so then disregard this whole thread everyone! Except this part ... During Anarchy put alot of Jokesters in your cities and it will be short lived. SHWWWEEEWWW!!!

 

[Smoking mirror]

Yes when in anarchy you don't produce any cash; thus no luxuries, the only cash you receive is from trade agreements but I don't think this can be transformed in to luxuries cos it doesn't pass through any cities.
Use entertainers, just before you stage a revolution go through all your cities and make loads of entertainers, don't wory about production or trade, just try to get as much entertainers and food production as you can, also remember that in anarchy food prouction is reduced.

However luxuries are absolutly essential in combating war weariness.

 

[Zouave]

Originally posted by Concona
Yes i don`t get it to, what the heck is wrong with Monarchy, look at Russia, it didn`t help them.
But why don`t you buy some things like Monarchy, if that is a possibility offcourse

Bye Bye

If Communism in the game is indeed inferior to Monarchy we may have another historical inaccuracy.

I would certainly claim Communism was more productive than Monarchy, or would the Soviet Union in the 1950's have been more efficient if it went back to Czarist rule?

Make an interesting debate.

 

[RX2000]

I hate the multi turn population pissed anarchy too. It really chaps my a** when the stupid people destroy much needed improvements in several cities. So what I do in anarchy is make several of my citizens entertainers. You lose some population, but no improvements.

 

[TheDS]

You can make money during an anarchy by having taxmen too. I presume you can also conduct research with scientists, but as the techs cost so much, there's not much point.

Any time you change gov'ts, you need to go through ALL your cities and reoptimize them. You will find that as long as you have enough people growing food, the rest can be specialists. You may need an entertainer or two... who knows? But you can't get specialists out of all your cities, because your food production is limited to 2, and each person eats 2, so that means all your people are growing food. EXCEPT when you have some kind of terrain bonus, like Cattle or Wheat. Then you can wind up with extra food, with which you can free up some people to serve as taxmen.

The thing to do is, in the city-window, click on your city to get the computer to auto-assign workers. Generally the computer does a good job of assigning them, and you may wind up with a couple extra people in a few cities.

 

[Fossil]

Prepare for your revolution, and make the best of it:

Reduce your cities' sizes by making workers, settlers or pop-rushing. This makes unhappiness easier to deal with.

Since cities are not at all productive, a settler can take a long walk during the revolution, and you haven't lost any additional production time.

A worker under anarchy isn't very productive, but at least does *something*.

If you have small cities during the revolution, you should be able to get (some) of them to grow in population under anarchy. This is worth something.

I think that's about the best you can do under anarchy. Like most every thing else in Civ, if you are proactive, you come out ahead; if you are reactive, you're dead meat.

 

[Concona]

He i`m back

Excuse me but why would we the western world be affraid off communism, i tell you because that system doesn't work, when you look at Russia you see poor people dangerous situations like living close to Tjernobyl and live in Siberia where people freese to dead, because they don't have any electricity.
And look at Holland or America we western people care for eachother you can't say that from Russia

 

[Forthoffer]

You can't judge the effectiveness of a type of government based on a single RL example.

Marxist Communism might work if a government culture were developed to combat the temptation toward corruption and cronyism. Modern communuism seems to always come with corruption, though.

Soviet Communism didn't fail because of corruption. It failed because the cost of corruption combined with the expensive military buildup lead to them sacrificing their future (from a resource point of view), so that when the future became the present, they fell apart.

Chinese Communism hasn't failed, though internal corruption still costs them a lot. They didn't spend as much on their military as the Soviets did. (Their current captialistic experiments are part of a search for more productivity, and are not forced.)

Also note that monarchies have had a range of successes and failures, too.

I think the Civ3 renditions of Monarchy and Communism are reasonable.