I need some help...

[DsevenO]

I'm playing my first deity game and I'm chugging along okay. The problem I'm having right now is that I want to expand my territory via war, but as soon as I declare war (on the Dutch) my gpt goes up by about 50 gpt (even though I have no trade agreements with them) and now no other civs will trade with me on a gpt basis. I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation for this, I'd just like to know what it is. Thanks in advance for any replies.

Edit: I should add that if I don't declare war, the same refusal for gpt agreements happens a few turns later, when all of a sudden my per turn agreements with 2/3 of my trading partners are cancelled and I'm no longer able to trade with that same 2/3. When I attempt to make a gpt agreement, I am blamed for welching on a deal with one of my former trading partners.

 

[Tomoyo]

The only explanation would be that you were paying gpt, but since you said that you didn't have any ongoing deals, I have no idea.

 

[DsevenO]

I've uploaded the game save (C3C, patched to 1.22) at precisely the moment this wierdness happens - maybe someone wouldn't mind taking a look at it? Thanks again.

 

[Renata]

It might be explainable if your declaring war on the Dutch cuts off trade routes to the civs you are trading with. You won't be able to make use of Dutch roads and/or harbors while you're at war with them, and the presence of their units along a restricted trade route (for example, a galley on a coast tile pre-astronomy) can cut it off even if their units are in neutral territory.

As for what happens even if you don't declare war, I can only guess, but it could be any of a number of things, including wars among critical AIs, an AI losing a critical harbor or having it blocked by someone they're at war with -- even barbarian galleys, sometimes.

Renata

 

[Blackbird_SR-71]

it could be you somehow broke a deal while one of the other AIs were at war. did you have any ROP agreements?

 

[DsevenO]

Thank you for the replies. I do have a few rop agreements, but I'm not sure how they would be involved. It's pretty vexing - one turn I can trade with everyone, the next turn I am no longer paying out gold per turn for one of the techs I recently bought, I can only trade with a few civs, and I'm blamed for breaking a treaty (having done nothing at all to change any of my arrangements).