Ideas for Great People?

[rattatatouille]

One of the things I like about Civ VI is that Great People aren't interchangeable; each one provides their own benefits. This of course dovetails into the "recruitment pool" system the game has for great people, but I'm not gonna focus on that.

Here are some ideas for Great People I have:

Dominique Jean Larrey

Industrial Era Great General.

Aside from the usual bonuses (+Move and Combat Strength for Industrial and Modern Units), his Retirement bonus would be +1 Move for Medics and Supply Convoys, and +5 HP healing per turn for all units.

John Pierpont Morgan

Modern Era Great Merchant.

+2 Gold per Stock Exchange, Grants 1000 Gold upon use.

Alexander Graham Bell

Modern Era Great Scientist.

Triggers the Eureka for Telecommunications as well as one Modern or Atomic tech.

 

[dunkleosteus]

Elon Musk - Information Era great merchant that gives Eurekas to Robotics, Nanotechnology and Nuclear Fusion (the three techs required to build the three Mars colonizer ship parts for the science victory). Elon has already expressed that his ultimate goal is to start a colony on Mars, so it makes sense that he would be used to push closer to the technologies that unlock that ability. He's not the one doing the equations though, so he's not a scientist or engineer. As a billionaire, he's clearly a great merchant.

 

[Softly]

Elon Musk - Information Era great merchant that gives Eurekas to Robotics, Nanotechnology and Nuclear Fusion (the three techs required to build the three Mars colonizer ship parts for the science victory). Elon has already expressed that his ultimate goal is to start a colony on Mars, so it makes sense that he would be used to push closer to the technologies that unlock that ability. He's not the one doing the equations though, so he's not a scientist or engineer. As a billionaire, he's clearly a great merchant.

@dunkleosteus Just so you know Sid Meir and Firaxis have a long standing policy of not including anyone currently living in any of their civ games. This thread is just for fun I know but thought I still might point it out.

 

[Sostratus]

I understand the game has to be on a horizon, but taking from the example of future tech & civic, I would really like to see GPP not become worthless once you've claimed the great people of the information era. (Great prophets have the same issue.)

With all the terrain focus we have now, I would toy with the idea of bringing back great tile improvements in a limited way: having an engineer, merchant, or scientist somewhere in the tree equipped with a charge or two as their ability;
and having "future engineers" with a charge to create a Manufactory/Customs House/ Academy (can't use the name campus anymore!)

A Great Tile Improvement would provide significant yield and could become very powerful. For example, a Manufactory might have +4 prod, with another +2 at industrialization; with another +4 production from each adjacent industrial zone. To help you out, it would could as a major adjacency for IZ/Hansa. (So you don't lose hammers by replacing a mine). I think 2 charges of that in the industrial age would be nice! As the game drags on, top industrial powers could continue to reap the rewards. Maybe an Academy provides +4 science (+2 w/ Scientific theory) and gets bonuses from each adjacent districts like Nubian pyramids, but at +2 instead of +1. Etc.
Okay, Okay, you got me: basically I think James Watt+Mausoleum is too OP and should be replaced by manufactories.

I would not advocate for great generals or admirals to be earned indefinitely, because their auras stack and it would get ridiculous.
I'm not sure how you incorporate GWAMs- they had secondary abilities in Civ5, maybe we could work them in some how.
Great prophet points, IMO, should be redeemable for something after the first prophet. Perhaps you could buy special apostles in holy cities that had an extra promotion, or use them to acquire special Prophet units that could add reformation beliefs or something.
I really wish we had a better religion founding system in general; There's a lot of options to put unique effects on the Great prophet class (just like great generals) that get completely swept aside because we can only use them to found religions, full stop.

Anyways... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We need a Great Engineer to help us build wonders after the industrial era (Gustav Eiffel is the last one.) Boring, I know, but late game wonders are very pricey. Not sure who they'd be, though. Maybe William Van Alen, who designed the Chrysler Building, could be a good option for the modern era.

With R&F due in 10 days, we have loyalty, governors, and alliances to think about! (There's a GG and GAdm for loyalty, and Irene of Athens will grant a governor title. See this thread under great people.)

 

[Phrozen]

Guandao has a huge thread on this subject somewhere on this forum.

 

[dunkleosteus]

@dunkleosteus Just so you know Sid Meir and Firaxis have a long standing policy of not including anyone currently living in any of their civ games. This thread is just for fun I know but thought I still might point it out.

Did they? I wasn't aware. That sort of limits the great people you can have in the information era though, doesn't it? Firaxis gauges it started ~1980, and a lot of the big names in the industry are still around. When you're talking about the science victory (something that we haven't done yet), it gets even more difficult, because the biggest influencers may not have even finished grad school yet. (Implying those discoveries haven't yet been made)

 

[Softly]

and a lot of the big names in the industry are still around. When you're talking about the science victory (something that we haven't done yet), it gets even more difficult, be

Yes it has been this way for a while. They do it for legal reasons I believe.

 

[Alexander's Hetaroi]

Did they? I wasn't aware. That sort of limits the great people you can have in the information era though, doesn't it? Firaxis gauges it started ~1980, and a lot of the big names in the industry are still around. When you're talking about the science victory (something that we haven't done yet), it gets even more difficult, because the biggest influencers may not have even finished grad school yet. (Implying those discoveries haven't yet been made)

I think the most recent was Steve Jobs in an expansion of Civ 5 after he passed.
I also would love it if we could get Great Entertainers from Entertainment Complex and now Water Park and Great Aviators from the Aerodrome.
P.T. Barnum and Charles Lindbergh come to mind.

 

[Greywulf]

Alhazen (Ibn al-Haytham) ~ Great Scientist.