If humans are a product of evolution...

[NinjaCow64]

Well yeah, that's obvious. Middle-Class White populations for example are very much better at not being violent thugs than populations from black, gang-riddled ghettos.

I assume you’re memeing here right...?

But the interesting question here is whether that's because of the situation they were born into, or whether that's something inherent to that population. Do people create the environment they live in, or does the environment create the people?

There are good arguments to be made for why most, if not all of it, is because of outside factors that created the environment, not that these populations were prone to being violent thugs to begin with.

Yeah, environment and society explains a lot more stuff. Also its silly to blame things on the genetics of a “race”, because from my understanding people considered to be the same “race” have as much genetic difference with each other as people considered to be from different “races”.

 

[Ryika]

That doesn't really make sense though. The environment doesn't exist without the people in it.

No, but people are not immune to outside influences. Being treated differently is enough for people in a certain environment to fall behind, and once the environment has started taking damage, you're on a downwards spiral. It's not like majority-black environments in the USA were ever on an equal playing field.

 

[NinjaCow64]

That doesn't really make sense though. The environment doesn't exist without the people in it.

You actually posted the JonTron image lol.

If you didn’t know, the second image that you posted was infamously used by JonTron in the Destiny debate to “prove” poor white people comitted less crime than rich black people. The stats are completely made up by some guy on /pol/, the Bureau of Justice doesn’t even track those statistics. Be more careful with checking your sources in the future.

When was Liberia colonized? I know it was originally established by Americans but it has been a sovereign nation since it's inception. Plenty of countries were at war or under military occupation in the 20th century, that hardly is enough to explain all the problems going on in Ethiopia.

Liberia may have been a sovereign nation since its inception but there were still locals who were displaced and oppressed by the colonisers.

Use your imagination.

Okay. From my reading of your posts, I have used my imagination and come to the conclusion that you hold the racist belief that black people are more likely to fall victim to the supposed downsides of welfare systems due to genetic reasons.

Did I draw the wrong conclusion from your posts? Please correct me if I did.

If you're trying to make white people feel guilty, maybe.

That’s not what I’m trying to do.

I've answered it at least twice now, not sure what you're expecting.

I’m expecting a clear yes or no answer to my question, which you have failed to provide.

That's a huge subject that I'm not going to get into.

Well luckily CFC expanded the word limit for posts recently, so you have all the space you need.

That is way too broad of a question. I think there were good parts and bad parts, like with anything.

Do you really believe that there are good and bad parts to everything? What about some horrific dieseaes like ebola or cancer?

 

[JohannaK]

I must protest the sham of a moderation that lets racists keep on preaching bile but decides calling them racist is rude. Hell of a double standard, you poopbags.

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[Broken_Erika]

I must protest the sham of a moderation that lets racists keep on preaching bile but decides calling them racist is rude. Hell of a double standard, you poopbags.

Hope you like Infractions, 'cause opposing a racists freedom of speech is apparently vastly more evil, vile and reprehensible than racism and bigotry!

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[gay_Aleks]

And the very same moderation which, after tolerating this dung, has the temerity of calling it "valuable discussion".

Have you no shame?

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[Lemon Merchant]

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