Immortal University 50 - Wang Kon

@ Irgy
I always wanted to know, where exactly did you get that avatar from?

It's a crop of this image of a lich. It's one of those images that floats around the web - I don't know where the original image actually comes from, but I'd guess it's from an old d&d book. It has nothing to do with Civ really, I use it as my avatar on a few different forums.
 
It's a crop of this image of a lich. It's one of those images that floats around the web - I don't know where the original image actually comes from, but I'd guess it's from an old d&d book. It has nothing to do with Civ really, I use it as my avatar on a few different forums.

I think you're right on the source. I'm pretty sure I have the book, somewhere...
 
Spoiler :

Don't be afraid of going straight for archery here. If you don't get DoW'd you were very lucky, and if you attack yourself with archers, you can slow the AI expansion a bit and pick up some GGs not to mention unlocking the HE if there is a good site for it. And you have good hill city sites to grab next to both neighbors so being in a war with both of them pre catapults is actually strong for you.

Not to mention if you noticed the ivory its the cherry on top as with HE elephants and cats ends the game.
 
To ~1000AD, giving up.
Spoiler :
It sounds like I was lucky in that Shaka didn't declare on me until I at least had time to chariot rush Monty. From there I should have been able to win it.

Where I screwed up was in sending too-small stacks into Shaka's territory. I laughed at the AI for sitting his stacks outside my capital where they were wiped our easily, then repeatedly did basically the same stupid thing myself. I simply underestimated the amount of unit-spam that Shaka can generate. The last time I managed to take his capital (with few losses), but the stack that did it was then completely obliterated a few turns later.

It's now 1000AD and I just recently managed to finally finish researching currency. I'm no longer even really winning the war, just holding my own. So I've given up.

I might come back to this by continuing on from a save shortly after Shaka's DOW and see if I can do better by having the patience to build a much bigger stack to send in, rather than sending in stacks just big enough to take out one city then get wiped out by the reinforcements.
 
Irgy - Getting peace after an AI attacks you is not that difficult. There is no need to rush things when you have the prod/tech capacity to win the war with a lot less hammers at a later date.
 
@grashopa
Spoiler :
There was certainly no *need* to rush, it was just impatience, I definately should have waited.

Not sure what you mean about getting peace though, I didn't want peace (was happy to keep wiping out the stacks he sent), and couldn't have got it very cheaply either (he wanted a city, I hate giving him cities he couldn't take for himself).
 
The casualty count has been rather high for this game. :lol:

I suppose, most people who always rush have trouble when the shoe's on the other foot! :lol:

Shaka's & Monte's stacks here are NOTHING compared to the next level, so you'd best be grateful right now.
 
Maybe Shaka picked me instead of Hatty (who was his worst enemy) as target because i claimed that juicy clam/clam/corn/cow coastal city and shared borders with him early. When do you get minus diplo points for sharing borders ? Does it depend only on the length of the border or on the leader aswell ?

Greetings Knightly
 
Maybe Shaka picked me instead of Hatty (who was his worst enemy) as target because i claimed that juicy clam/clam/corn/cow coastal city and shared borders with him early. When do you get minus diplo points for sharing borders ? Does it depend only on the length of the border or on the leader aswell ?

Greetings Knightly

I settled the same spot and also got DoWed while I was finishing off the other guy (see my post earlier in the thread). Settling close to warlike AIs is usually a bad idea if you want to maintain peace for a while, but I think the decision of who to attack is mostly random, with the worst enemy being generally the preferred target.
 
It's a crop of this image of a lich. It's one of those images that floats around the web - I don't know where the original image actually comes from, but I'd guess it's from an old d&d book. It has nothing to do with Civ really, I use it as my avatar on a few different forums.

If my memory's good, it's a drawing of the gods of Lankhmar...
 
If my memory's good, it's a drawing of the gods of Lankhmar...

Your memory sure is good:
Lankhmar, Swords of Deceit

Thanks, I've been wondering about that for a while actually.

PS Sorry for so many off topic posts. Has anyone actually managed to win this one? A couple of people seem to have survived a while at least, haven't seen any victory posts.
 
There were a couple of people who knocked out Shaka I think. Should be winnable from there. If you can capture his capital I'd say it's in the bag.

This map will be remembered for the many victims it has claimed (including me).
 
Hehe, maybe you should have razed it...:p

We haven't had any input from the mapmaker at all, I wonder did he get pwned by his own map, or did he just leave it here to kill us all and retreat to a safe distance to watch the carnage?
 
My autosave is toast, but if you really really need to see a finish... I MAY get around to doing it again.
 
Hmm, I haven't played this game, but my general rule of thumb is that you can beat anyone with enough H'wacha. Was construction just not a reasonable goal before getting decimated by Aggressive primitive civs?
 
Hmm, I haven't played this game, but my general rule of thumb is that you can beat anyone with enough H'wacha. Was construction just not a reasonable goal before getting decimated by Aggressive primitive civs?

In my case I took that maxim too far. I built "enough Hwacha", but not quite enough ordinary units to go with them. I certainly could have won with them, I just made a meal of it.

I think in other cases they did indeed get DOW'd before Construction.
 
I'm not a fan of early (offensive) warfare irgy, and perhaps you can see some of the reasons why. However, next time give us a few shots so I can see out of curiousity where things may be improved.
 
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