Industrious Trait not working as expected

[AbuHab]

I'm playing the Chinese (Industrious/Militaristic) in a Civ III Conquests (v. 1.22) game. I now have several cities in the size 8-10 range. Aren't I supposed to be seeing an extra shield in the center square of these cities because of the Industrious Trait? I'm not.

 

[AdHHH]

Im not 100% on this but I think you only get this extra shield in metropolises (cities 13+), you'll have to check the info section

 

[skunk]

Yes, it seems it's only for size 13+.

Check http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3faq.shtml#town_production and scroll down a bit.

 

[t3h_m013]

1 extra shields in just metros = not that useful. does anyone know how much faster indutstrious workers work?

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

The problem is if you founded your city on a square that produces no shields, the game gives you a freebie. So when your town grows to a city and factors in the bonus, the freebie sheild is given away. I think this is the case, I'm like 80% sure.

 

[Juhahu]

1 extra shields in just metros = not that useful. does anyone know how much faster indutstrious workers work?

I agree, bonus isn't very useful.

Anyway, workers are 50% faster (mining 6==>4 turns and roads 3==>2 turns).

It's very nice boost in beginning, when your towns grow faster and resources/towns get connected quickly. Also later you need less workers 45 workers ==> 30 workers. It's 30gp / turn for republics

 

[Juhahu]

The problem is if you founded your city on a square that produces no shields, the game gives you a freebie. So when your town grows to a city and factors in the bonus, the freebie sheild is given away. I think this is the case, I'm like 80% sure.

So city gets bonus too if build somewhere like on hills where is one shield always?

 

[HellboundHeathcliff]

So city gets bonus too if build somewhere like on hills where is one shield always?

Correct. If you found your city on a tile that already produces at least one shield, you will get the bonus at size 7.

 

[t3h_m013]

I agree, bonus isn't very useful.

Anyway, workers are 50% faster (mining 6==>4 turns and roads 3==>2 turns).

It's very nice boost in beginning, when your towns grow faster and resources/towns get connected quickly. Also later you need less workers 45 workers ==> 30 workers. It's 30gp / turn for republics

good call. havnt been industrious civ yet (for a proper game) but thats quite useful. Does anyone know if theres a roster for how long everything takes i.e. road on forest, road on plain. clear forest, clear jungle clear pollution etc. etc. etc.?

 

[HalfBadger]

I agree, bonus isn't very useful.

Anyway, workers are 50% faster (mining 6==>4 turns and roads 3==>2 turns).

It's very nice boost in beginning, when your towns grow faster and resources/towns get connected quickly. Also later you need less workers 45 workers ==> 30 workers. It's 30gp / turn for republics

thought it was 50% in Vailla and PTW, but in C3c it's like 2/3, 33% faster?

Since 6 to 4 is 2/3, not 1/2 etc.

 

[AdHHH]

thought it was 50% in Vailla and PTW, but in C3c it's like 2/3, 33% faster?

Since 6 to 4 is 2/3, not 1/2 etc.

2 is 1/3 of 6, so the bonus has gone from 1/2 to 1/3.

 

[HellboundHeathcliff]

100% bonus = 2x speed as in Civ3 & PTW or 1/2 # turns.

50% bonus = 3/2 speed or 2/3 # turns.

Note how the fractions invert from % bonus to # turns.

Thus, 2/3 * 6 = 4 turns = 50% bonus

Any fractional turns are always rounded up.