Is it possible to make ptw actually playable?
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Finally found a thread that answers what I'm looking for.
Anyone got the skinny on Conquests? Is it worth buying (ie. Put pop-ups in and fix that annoying lag?)
Nothing would annoy me more than having a nice empire, building up forces, and then upon having to check each and every city to make sure they are building what I want, and notice the 8 enemy tanks that rolled 6 squares in my territory and no alerts. All this on 2 cable modems within 5 miles of each other, waiting on the 2-3 second lag while pieces move.
Supposedly, some good reviews of Conquests are out, but frankly, I don't care about new scenarios, better graphics, etc. Those are one time add-ins, that will be boring immediately after playing.
stuart_wildcat got it right, you end up spending more time watching every inch of your empire than having the pop-ups do it for you.
I can understand how they implement features, since apparently they made the game for those who like short, quick, small games. But seriously, how difficult is it to put OPTIONS in to turn that stuff on/off??????? Let the users decided what they want, and not the designers knowing whats best.
Oh, they want to speed up multiplayer, so no pop-ups? Thats fine and dandy, as long as those of us who don't want them can turn them back on!!!
I've played Civ since the original, CivNET was GREAT, Civ2 made me drool for multiplayer, and when they delivered, I was in heaven (since they did it right). Civ3 had me chomping at the bit, but no mulitplayer, thats fine, since they say its on its way. Oh, ok, its an expansion, thats fine, cause it will be multiplayer. PTW comes out......and there is already a patch for it the day its released. Multiplayer was horrible, and full of holes.
I even called Infogrames about the no build popups, since it clearly said in the preferences that I had it on......after 30 minutes of them having me figure out the preferences file, and what value in what position did what option, they finally tell me that its only for single player......
Not long after, I gave up on PTW.
I got CTP2, and with the Apolyton Pack, supposed to be VERY good multi. I tried it single player, and it held a lot of promise, just never got around to multiplayer yet.
Anyone got the skinny on Conquests? Is it worth buying (ie. Put pop-ups in and fix that annoying lag?)
Nothing would annoy me more than having a nice empire, building up forces, and then upon having to check each and every city to make sure they are building what I want, and notice the 8 enemy tanks that rolled 6 squares in my territory and no alerts. All this on 2 cable modems within 5 miles of each other, waiting on the 2-3 second lag while pieces move.
Supposedly, some good reviews of Conquests are out, but frankly, I don't care about new scenarios, better graphics, etc. Those are one time add-ins, that will be boring immediately after playing.
stuart_wildcat got it right, you end up spending more time watching every inch of your empire than having the pop-ups do it for you.
I can understand how they implement features, since apparently they made the game for those who like short, quick, small games. But seriously, how difficult is it to put OPTIONS in to turn that stuff on/off??????? Let the users decided what they want, and not the designers knowing whats best.
Oh, they want to speed up multiplayer, so no pop-ups? Thats fine and dandy, as long as those of us who don't want them can turn them back on!!!
I've played Civ since the original, CivNET was GREAT, Civ2 made me drool for multiplayer, and when they delivered, I was in heaven (since they did it right). Civ3 had me chomping at the bit, but no mulitplayer, thats fine, since they say its on its way. Oh, ok, its an expansion, thats fine, cause it will be multiplayer. PTW comes out......and there is already a patch for it the day its released. Multiplayer was horrible, and full of holes.
I even called Infogrames about the no build popups, since it clearly said in the preferences that I had it on......after 30 minutes of them having me figure out the preferences file, and what value in what position did what option, they finally tell me that its only for single player......
Not long after, I gave up on PTW.
I got CTP2, and with the Apolyton Pack, supposed to be VERY good multi. I tried it single player, and it held a lot of promise, just never got around to multiplayer yet.
Are my friends and I the only ones who own Conquests? Holy Moly I felt ripped too after PTW but .... nevermind.
On topic, in a multiplayer LAN Conquests v1.00 game you get a popup when someone completes a wonder. Other than that, no popups about enemy's attacking or what tech to research. There is a list in the top left that says what production has completed in what city and if one of your units was victorious in battle. But it goes away fast and is pretty useless. Guess you gotta keep a sharp eye even when your empire grows. Connectivity is better in the newest expansion!
On topic, in a multiplayer LAN Conquests v1.00 game you get a popup when someone completes a wonder. Other than that, no popups about enemy's attacking or what tech to research. There is a list in the top left that says what production has completed in what city and if one of your units was victorious in battle. But it goes away fast and is pretty useless. Guess you gotta keep a sharp eye even when your empire grows. Connectivity is better in the newest expansion!
John Falkner
Knight of the Round Table
I cannot say how right you are ffej! 
wow, look at this thread. Man, forgot how fun it was to rant sometimes 
Any other news on this? I haven't tried Conquests still, not gonna fork over money for something I don't know a lot about.
I've been entranced by Medieval Total War since PTW, oh man, is it sweeeeeeeeet. Would have dropped Civ like a hot potato if MTW was mulitplayer in campaign mode, but we won't dip into that subject, I put my comments on Total Wars forums (pretty much what I said above), and they aren't including it in the Rome expansion, so I ain't getting it.
So, since the search for a REALLY good TBS is continuing, I feel everyone should get what info I have discovered.
-No version of the Total War series has Campaign Mode in multiplayer, just the RTS mode that you might as well play EE or AOE for. Although, I would reccomend getting one of the series, MTW is really good. Very fun game, I spent hours and hours playing it in campaign mode single player.
-Tried that game Spartan, the main game mode has a lot of promise, and the MP option they came up with was quite ingenious, but no tactical mode in the game, pretty much MTW without battles, which would be fine, but its not as crisp. Instead, the tactical battle mode is just set your troops and let them go at it......didn't catch my interest.
-Tried CTP2, as mentioned above. Oh man.....what fun it was single player.....and multiplayer looked so good.....IF YOU COULD GET THE DAMN GAME TO RUN IN THAT MODE!!!!!!! Won't run right under XP for some reason, and the lobby-like joining area was just the pits. Anyone know anything to get around this, please let me know.
I have decided to return to my roots, and broke out Civ2Gold again. So easy....wham bam, directIP, thank you maam. Hours and hours of game time lately with a friend, runs like a champ, and has a lot of options.
So, given what I am looking for, is Conquests up to the challenge?
Thanx again.
Ffej
Any other news on this? I haven't tried Conquests still, not gonna fork over money for something I don't know a lot about.
I've been entranced by Medieval Total War since PTW, oh man, is it sweeeeeeeeet. Would have dropped Civ like a hot potato if MTW was mulitplayer in campaign mode, but we won't dip into that subject, I put my comments on Total Wars forums (pretty much what I said above), and they aren't including it in the Rome expansion, so I ain't getting it.
So, since the search for a REALLY good TBS is continuing, I feel everyone should get what info I have discovered.
-No version of the Total War series has Campaign Mode in multiplayer, just the RTS mode that you might as well play EE or AOE for. Although, I would reccomend getting one of the series, MTW is really good. Very fun game, I spent hours and hours playing it in campaign mode single player.
-Tried that game Spartan, the main game mode has a lot of promise, and the MP option they came up with was quite ingenious, but no tactical mode in the game, pretty much MTW without battles, which would be fine, but its not as crisp. Instead, the tactical battle mode is just set your troops and let them go at it......didn't catch my interest.
-Tried CTP2, as mentioned above. Oh man.....what fun it was single player.....and multiplayer looked so good.....IF YOU COULD GET THE DAMN GAME TO RUN IN THAT MODE!!!!!!! Won't run right under XP for some reason, and the lobby-like joining area was just the pits. Anyone know anything to get around this, please let me know.
I have decided to return to my roots, and broke out Civ2Gold again. So easy....wham bam, directIP, thank you maam. Hours and hours of game time lately with a friend, runs like a champ, and has a lot of options.
So, given what I am looking for, is Conquests up to the challenge?
Thanx again.
Ffej
John Falkner
Knight of the Round Table
No !
Alpha Centauri was the best turn based Multiplayer game i´ve ever played in the last 20 years.
Alpha Centauri was the best turn based Multiplayer game i´ve ever played in the last 20 years.
grs
nameless one
Conquests (even 1.22) has excactly the same problems. No Popups in MP and a horrible lag even on a 100MBit Lan with only 2 machines.
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John Falkner
Knight of the Round Table
Its a shame
The only hope is the last patch, which will come out in June (or should i say this year?)
Breakaway and Firaxis must understand, that CIV is a turn based game and not a realtime game. So we need popups!!!
The only hope is the last patch, which will come out in June (or should i say this year
?)Breakaway and Firaxis must understand, that CIV is a turn based game and not a realtime game. So we need popups!!!
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