@bob i too had a go off matt's save for the hell of it. in fairness to him i think his far-flung army was just after taking a legendary city off pacal in order to block him. and city razing was off. @matt im no great player and prob shouldn't dispense advice, but i got within 3 of space race victory only for that cheeky scamp pacal to nick a cultural victory. pretty sure i would have got the SR victory had huynacapac(sp?) not ran a shed load of spies to break spaceship parts on a few occasions (3 i think). i wasnt giving it my full concentration so didnt transfer any esp onto him. anyway for what it's worth, my quick and dirty solution was to drag the expeditionary force back home for defence and leave those 2 former mayan cities for zara to take/slow him down. paid qin to declare war on inca, who took peace in couple turns in exchange for 2 cities (i kno, inelegant, but i was impatient). i converted to christianity which helped get zara back onside in due course. i voted pericles in un so zara wouldnt get diplo victory. didnt build anything else but spaceship parts and the odd small happy/helathy building. the units already built were sufficient. my only vague suggestion, prob nothing you don't kno already: get some backup! i don't think anyone was your buddy and you sure got stuck into war on many fronts. get everyone else to fight each other! qin was super-helpful in keeping the other guys busy. if they're building units for war, thats less production put into other endeavours.