Lakes Suck

[Atlas627]

BNW Lakes suck. 2f, non-upgradeable. Fresh water, and nearly impassable are the only benefits. Do you think they will get a buff in the Fall Patch? I'd like a Pantheon or something. Or just make them always 3f.

 

[Autoclave]

on normal maps they are quite rare also. I rarely see more than 1 tile lake in game. I dont think they will get a buff, as i expect the devs attention to be focused elsewhere.

 

[I_qua_I]

I wouldn't mind a lake-relevant pantheon belief. It actually sounds like a great idea!

 

[Heart Break Kid]

A lake pantheon would make sense. Not much use out of most lakes.

 

[JSMCAG]

Them Aztecs with them Lake Pantheon would be unstoppable!

 

[newarkinvaders]

Tundra and snow are also bad . Buff ?

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Tundra and snow are also bad . Buff ?

But lakes are much more useful real-life than tundra.

 

[DutchJob]

No they don't. The tiles around them get the fresh water bonus.

 

[BroOfTheSun]

No they don't. The tiles around them get the fresh water bonus.

Only good part about lakes is the fresh water bonus, and the ability to build gardens.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I wouldn't mind a lake-relevant pantheon belief. It actually sounds like a great idea!

"Lady of the Lake"
+1 Food & +1 Culture from Lakes

Also, Liberty is off limits to followers of the LotL until the Tradition tree is filled.

"Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony." --Dennis the Peasant

 

[Hakan-i Cihan]

Another option would be adding +1 food for lakes with an appropriate technology. "Optics" could be a candidate because of appearance of lighthouse. But the +1 food for lakes from the lighthouse should probably be removed.

 

[I_qua_I]

"Lady of the Lake"
+1 Food & +1 Culture from Lakes...(snip)

I like this idea a lot.

 

[Matthew.]

Add tourism for all those vacationers

 

[bcaiko]

I agree that Lakes are a strange tile. They probably do deserve a rework of some kind, even though the fresh water bonus is pretty nice. The tile(s) themselves are hardly workable.

 

[MantaRevan]

I wouldn't mind a lake-relevant pantheon belief. It actually sounds like a great idea!

 

[Glassmage]

Why is sacred waters pantheon not applied to lakes?

 

[dexters]

Try spawning as Venice next to a large lake. 0 Sea trade routes to start. Finally shoehorned a few on a puppeted coastal CS later in the game.

 

[Resipsa]

No they don't. The tiles around them get the fresh water bonus.

Pretty much this farm tiles surrounding a Lake/Oasis are pretty good

 

[Pythakoreas]

Venice is reported to occasionally start on lakes when it's vital to start on seas.

 

[kaspergm]

Venice is reported to occasionally start on lakes when it's vital to start on seas.

If I'm not mistaken, this is because somewhere in the proces, the number that defines how many water tiles you need to have together to qualify as an ocean is ridiculously low (10 I think!).