Drunk-Monk
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- Joined
- Sep 14, 2008
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The mod suffers from a lack of historicity, with an 18th century military available and coexisting, with units from 1492. To solve this discrepancy, here is my first attempt to model a more realistic progression. As we don’t yet have a tech tree, or model for one, this just includes categories of units. Units would upgrade automatically, but to prevent the ‘Leonardos workshop’ problem typical of other Civ games, early units should be more expensive than later units. This would also reflect the fact that the initial conquests were undertaken by a force numbered in the low thousands, compared to the tens of thousands that were sent to put down the Atlantic revolutions. It would also represent the falling cost of military equipment, due to advancements in manufacturing and the increased capabilities of the state that led to larger armies taking the field, with a larger proportion of the soldiers bearing firearms.
I think eventually, we should work to change some of the civilian models as well. There are many existing models and skins, but to reduce work we should have units grouped in three different styles; Northern European, Southern European (including France) and Russian. For example, Holland and England would share the same Elder Statesman model, but this would be a different from the model for Russia and Portugal.
Here is my tentative proposal for a progression tree, for the moment I have decided to give general names for units, though we could give them nation specific names. I have decided to rename the Conquistador unit, to the Adventurer.
Key:
Blade Units (B)
Gun Units (G)
Horse Units (H)
Cannon Units (C)
15th - 16th Century 16th - 17th Century 18th - 19th Century
Town Guard (B) City Guard (B) Colonial Militia (G)
Footman (B) Pikeman (B) Late Pikeman (B)
Harquebusier (G) Musketeer (G) Line Infantry (B) (G)
Early Ranger (G) Late Ranger (G)
Native Warrior (B) Native Mercenary (G) Native Auxiliary (G)
Horseman (B) (H) Early Dragoon (G) (H) Late Dragoon (B) (G) (H)
Man-at-arms (B) (H) Cuirassier (B) (H) Cavalryman (B) (G) (H)
Demi-Cannon (C) Cannon (C) 18 Pounder (C)
Falconet (C) Saker (C) 6 Pounder (C)
Mortar (C)
Continental Guard (G)
Adventurer (B) Mercenary Regiment (G) Hessian (G)
Some possible sources for models include:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...-delectat-v9-2-civ-specific-unit-sets.237192/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-renaissance-age-unit-pack-cossacks.16295/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-renaissance-age-unit-pack-pre-petrine.16294/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/holy-roman-renaissance-age-unit-pack-habsburg.12616/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/viking-renaissance-age-unit-pack-swedish.12614/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/celtic-renaissance-age-unit-pack.12615/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/hungarian-renaissance-age-unit-pack.11990/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/andean-medieval-swordsman.6108/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/mesoamerican-heavy-footman.6098/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/spanish-middle-age-unit-pack.14432/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/brazilian-bandeirantes-pack-renaissance-units.18663/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/units-early-renaissance-cannons.363687/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-orthodox-priest.16388/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-great-merchant.16389/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/alexis-of-russia-russian-warlord.16391/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-worker-pack.16387/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/count-duke-of-olivares-spanish-warlord.14447/
I welcome your comments and contributions, especially of unit models.
Edit - The format for the table has messed up, but I think you get the idea
I think eventually, we should work to change some of the civilian models as well. There are many existing models and skins, but to reduce work we should have units grouped in three different styles; Northern European, Southern European (including France) and Russian. For example, Holland and England would share the same Elder Statesman model, but this would be a different from the model for Russia and Portugal.
Here is my tentative proposal for a progression tree, for the moment I have decided to give general names for units, though we could give them nation specific names. I have decided to rename the Conquistador unit, to the Adventurer.
Key:
Blade Units (B)
Gun Units (G)
Horse Units (H)
Cannon Units (C)
15th - 16th Century 16th - 17th Century 18th - 19th Century
Town Guard (B) City Guard (B) Colonial Militia (G)
Footman (B) Pikeman (B) Late Pikeman (B)
Harquebusier (G) Musketeer (G) Line Infantry (B) (G)
Early Ranger (G) Late Ranger (G)
Native Warrior (B) Native Mercenary (G) Native Auxiliary (G)
Horseman (B) (H) Early Dragoon (G) (H) Late Dragoon (B) (G) (H)
Man-at-arms (B) (H) Cuirassier (B) (H) Cavalryman (B) (G) (H)
Demi-Cannon (C) Cannon (C) 18 Pounder (C)
Falconet (C) Saker (C) 6 Pounder (C)
Mortar (C)
Continental Guard (G)
Adventurer (B) Mercenary Regiment (G) Hessian (G)
Some possible sources for models include:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...-delectat-v9-2-civ-specific-unit-sets.237192/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-renaissance-age-unit-pack-cossacks.16295/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-renaissance-age-unit-pack-pre-petrine.16294/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/holy-roman-renaissance-age-unit-pack-habsburg.12616/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/viking-renaissance-age-unit-pack-swedish.12614/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/celtic-renaissance-age-unit-pack.12615/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/hungarian-renaissance-age-unit-pack.11990/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/andean-medieval-swordsman.6108/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/mesoamerican-heavy-footman.6098/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/spanish-middle-age-unit-pack.14432/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/brazilian-bandeirantes-pack-renaissance-units.18663/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/units-early-renaissance-cannons.363687/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-orthodox-priest.16388/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-great-merchant.16389/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/alexis-of-russia-russian-warlord.16391/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/russian-worker-pack.16387/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources/count-duke-of-olivares-spanish-warlord.14447/
I welcome your comments and contributions, especially of unit models.
Edit - The format for the table has messed up, but I think you get the idea