liltammy1988
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Bacchus97 said:
This is the internet, not my 4th period english class, I type however I want. As long as you understand me, its alright.
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This is the internet, not my 4th period english class, I type however I want. As long as you understand me, its alright.
liltammy1988
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lysander said:
all i want people to do is read it, they aint got to grade my dam grammar, its not that serious. i talk like this, millions do, so what. its not that i dont know better, this is jus how i want to type/talk, and like i sed, as long as u can understand what im saying, where my periods, and commas are, isnt a problem.
BeefontheBone
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As are his (her?) spelling, punctuation and grammar
I fail to see the issue - Civ has never been the prettiest series, that's not the point of it. If the models were any higher in poly counts with bump-mapped photorealistic textures and all, the game would be impossible to play since so many are rendered at once - a compromise was made, and some might even say the graphics are too demanding as it is; Civ's fanbase don't expect to need to consider upgrading their GPUs and memory to run a Civ game - look at the number of folks trying to run it on laptops without T&L support.
Surely you must have looked at screenshots/videos/reviews/the back of the box before buying the game?
It is if you want to be taken seriously by anyone whose IQ and age are both above 17.
Clown2TheLeft
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I see there's someone calling themselves liltammy1988. I'm not sure if they have questions or not because English is my primary language. I don't speak Teen.
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King Flevance
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lysander said:
Very true. However in this case both parties are guilty.
Liltammy1988 you should know by now if someone doesnt like what you posted and have no real arguement they play grammer police to make you look foolish.
Now concerning the topic at hand that we were lead astray by the whambulance of the grammer police, I agree the graphics are kind of sad as to what DaveDash was referring to.
DaveDash said:
I like the buildings though personally. I always wished it was like that from the beginning. But those aqueducts.... oh how they suck. I dont think they were finished with them honestly, and expect a future patch to 'complete' their coding. I think the units should shrink when they go in the cities or something. Or just be smaller. About 3/4 of their size would be pretty cool. The units have always been too big for my taste in 4 personally though.
I agree that CIV isnt based around graphics, yet Firaxis doesnt seem to think so. They are the reason we are really even discussing it moving to a 3-D engine for the first time on CIV. I think the book mentions that this was the first time this team used one too. So not only is it the first time for CIV but for the development team. Firaxis was the ones to push for "Oh my, look how swell it looks." Now that people are saying "Um, that isn't all that great guys." The defending arguement is "We dont play CIV for graphics!"
lol.
OK thats my POV.
I dont mind making Civ4 eye candy at all, but the game certainly doesnt live up to the hype that I personally experianced about the graphical side of things.
Maybe if you could zoom right down into a living breathing city or something then id be impressed :>
Maybe if you could zoom right down into a living breathing city or something then id be impressed :>
OK my POV is that "We dont play CIV for graphics!" is not the main argument, just that it's a point to note. The main argument - which strangely hasn't been pointed out as much - is that they don't want the game to be too resource-hungry and for a game with as much happening at once as CIV, this is all too easy; seeing how many people with below required systems are trying to play the game (not that many, but significant), I think this is a rather valid decision.
Also I don't believe this is their first game with 3D. Firaxis also worked on Pirates! (the recent one), and IMHO some of that team must also be in the team creating CIV.
Also I don't believe this is their first game with 3D. Firaxis also worked on Pirates! (the recent one), and IMHO some of that team must also be in the team creating CIV.
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Quentin said:
First off, I do respect your opinion as is. This isn't an attack post as much as a want to hear an elaboration of what your talking about. Honestly, I dont see your POV.
I get that we don't play civ for graphics. I have always seen CIV as more of a game based on gameplay elements.
CIV 4 is already resource hungry blamed on either a memory leak or poor memory management. I agree with the latter if it is true that people are having no issues concerning slowed game play on systems under my own specs. Even with these 'wannabe awesome graphics' the game is slow due to poor management not to the graphics themselves.
Honestly I was fine with 2-D if they didn't know how to approach 3-D. We have been playing 2-D for over a decade now. IF they wanted to stress 3-D to compete in the modern PC gamers appeal, the graphics no doubt could have been better. These graphics compete with AOE 2 maybe. But the modern games beat the crap out of these graphics that seem to be as is taking away from the game. So basically we sacrificed our lovable 'gameplay elements' for mediocracy in graphics, that according to everyone is not the reason we play.
The point of this thread was the OP posting their distaste for the graphics for whatever reason. Are we not aloud to say anything bad about this game then because of the Immortal Sid? I mean obviously we sacrificed the major element of civ for something we fans have at the bottom of the 'Civilization Priority List' yet still there are people shouting 'BACK OFF YOU TROLLS' WTH is up people's ***es on here?
EDIT:Quentin this last part was directed at the general crazies early in this post not aiming for you specifically.
liltammy1988
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BeefontheBone said:As are his (her?) spelling, punctuation and grammar
I fail to see the issue - Civ has never been the prettiest series, that's not the point of it. If the models were any higher in poly counts with bump-mapped photorealistic textures and all, the game would be impossible to play since so many are rendered at once - a compromise was made, and some might even say the graphics are too demanding as it is; Civ's fanbase don't expect to need to consider upgrading their GPUs and memory to run a Civ game - look at the number of folks trying to run it on laptops without T&L support.
Surely you must have looked at screenshots/videos/reviews/the back of the box before buying the game?
It is if you want to be taken seriously by anyone whose IQ and age are both above 17.
FYI my IQ is 113, and no its not.
jdurg
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liltammy1988 said:
And we care because????????? Listen, if you want people to actually listen to your ideas and opinions you need to present them in a manner that doesn't make you seem like a complete fool who has yet to go to high school. If you don't like the graphics, then that's fine. You're entitled to your opinon. However, what do you want to accomplish here by making a post saying 'I hate the graficks. They suxor.'? Do you expect people to suddenly say 'Yes, I agree with you and will sell my game right now'? I'm just trying to find a reason for this thread even existing aside from an immature human being wanting to rile up a crowd of people.
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liltammy1988 said:
Where can I find out what mine is?
Seriously, though. Not one of those internet 'Click here to see your IQ' things though. I am hoping the time it takes me to recognize a star is a star has nothing to do with the serious measurement of my intellectual capabilities. Honestly, I am not a big person on the whole 'IQ' thing. I see it as a number used to base a humans intellectual level and can easily be overrated in a persons ability to understand everyday life. However, I would seriously like to know what mine is.
jdurg
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IQ's, like most standardized tests in general, are completely useless when determining how intellectually 'able' a person is. I have known many 'intelligent' people who are as dumb as a doorknob, yet at the same time I've known many people with low IQs who are smarter than any person out there.
Having a high IQ, or a high SAT score, or a high GPA doesn't make you smart. Being able to get through life comfortabley and make sense of varying situations and varying personalities/people makes you smart.
Having a high IQ, or a high SAT score, or a high GPA doesn't make you smart. Being able to get through life comfortabley and make sense of varying situations and varying personalities/people makes you smart.
King Flevance
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jdurg said:And we care because????????? Listen, if you want people to actually listen to your ideas and opinions you need to present them in a manner that doesn't make you seem like a complete fool who has yet to go to high school. If you don't like the graphics, then that's fine. You're entitled to your opinon. However, what do you want to accomplish here by making a post saying 'I hate the graficks. They suxor.'? Do you expect people to suddenly say 'Yes, I agree with you and will sell my game right now'? I'm just trying to find a reason for this thread even existing aside from an immature human being wanting to rile up a crowd of people.
The point of the thread 'to me' dunno about 'liltammy1988's' is that these graphics are what we sacrificed the game for. Do you think they are worth it? I see it has a valid arguement if presented the right way. Like for instance, this patch could be fixing even MORE gameplay elements had they not had to also address many technical issues concerning the users whom the game didn't work for. It doesnt matter whether your copy worked flawlessly or not. Your sacrificing 'gameplay element add-onns/adjustments' because the graphics are demanding. So even the people that the game was flawless out of the box are very possibly being affected by this as well as those who the game doesnt run. Now you can REALLY hate us.
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jdurg said:
Hehe me too that's why I am a non-believer. I am probably measured average anyways. Just a fun fact to know. My grades in high school sucked and I didnt even take SATs now that I think of it. Ah well.
liltammy1988
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jdurg said:And we care because????????? Listen, if you want people to actually listen to your ideas and opinions you need to present them in a manner that doesn't make you seem like a complete fool who has yet to go to high school. If you don't like the graphics, then that's fine. You're entitled to your opinon. However, what do you want to accomplish here by making a post saying 'I hate the graficks. They suxor.'? Do you expect people to suddenly say 'Yes, I agree with you and will sell my game right now'? I'm just trying to find a reason for this thread even existing aside from an immature human being wanting to rile up a crowd of people.
no where did i type graficks or suxor, i dont even know what the hell suxor would mean. I posted the thread to kind of see what other people thought of the graphics in this game. and it doesnt make me look like a complete fool. stop actin like u aint never heard of ebonics or slang, DAMN.
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Dragonlor said:
This statement is rather bold. Or something else I may get in trouble for flaming for.
I just started the stopwatch to the attack on this post. PS Mine doesnt count its off record.
liltammy1988
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Dragonlor said:
maybe it is my graphics card,and i plan on gettin a new computer asap, but some people have agreed, theyre not that good. i know the game isnt bought for the graphics im just saying they ARE bad,even with a good card i know what theyre meant to look like and i was expecting more than THAT for some reason.
also ive been meaning to say does anyone else find that song playing as you set up your game, just beautfiul, even though i dont speak that language. it sounds nice.
King Flevance said:Where can I find out what mine is?
Seriously, though. Not one of those internet 'Click here to see your IQ' things though. I am hoping the time it takes me to recognize a star is a star has nothing to do with the serious measurement of my intellectual capabilities. Honestly, I am not a big person on the whole 'IQ' thing. I see it as a number used to base a humans intellectual level and can easily be overrated in a persons ability to understand everyday life. However, I would seriously like to know what mine is.
Probably the Sylvan Leanring Center, if you have one nearby; they seem to give just about every standardized test out there. But I don't believe that the IQ test really tests intellectual capability either (but I am curious about mine; I'll take it someday).
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