It seems the majority of posts right now are anti-Civ V. I have to wonder if maybe that's because the people who like the game are too busy playing it? I have to say I found it enjoyable. It didn't drag on nearly as badly as Civ IV late game. Only reason I'm not playing right now is that I have to share my desktop with others and the laptop I'm on now can't run it. I've played every Civ game ever made and I can say it's not a terrible game. I'd say it's clearly ahead of Civs 1,2, and 3. I'd put it about on par with Civ IV vanilla. It has more "uniqueness" to it that IV did, but it's a little harder to jump right into coming from IV than IV was coming from III. The changes from IV to V are more in your face. Unlike some people though, I think that's a good thing. It feels more like I'm learning a new game than a continuation of the old one. It's like going from Civ II to Call to Power/CTP2 was. That's good for me though. I'd personally had enough of Civ IV. Those who are complaining clearly hadn't had enough of IV. Well then keep playing IV until you're bored with it. V will be patched and improved and you'll come around. You know you will.