Lost Eden development thread

[vyeh]

I doubt it I'm afraid. I could make it blank though!

Did you try? You could label them "Crash to Desktop"!

Now 400 replies!

Okay Oblivion has 40 cities now.

Good.

 

[Kilkakon]

Did you try? You could label them "Crash to Desktop"!

Haha good suggestion. I can't remove lines from labels.txt though as that would break the flow.

Now 400 replies!

Yeah! And I am pretty much ready to release now, other than organising artwork and perhaps a backstory (although backstory can wait for beta).

 

[vyeh]

I am pretty much ready to release now, other than organising artwork and perhaps a backstory (although backstory can wait for beta).

So waiting for Petek on units. Does that mean you have placeholder artwork ready, but not organized?

Backstory isn't necessary for alpha.

 

[Kilkakon]

The placeholder art would be just zoomed in versions of the originals, which I can make pretty quickly. I haven't made any yet, purely because I was thinking that it would be wiser to wait for Petek, but I can now if you prefer.

 

[vyeh]

The placeholder art would be just zoomed in versions of the originals, which I can make pretty quickly. I haven't made any yet, purely because I was thinking that it would be wiser to wait for Petek, but I can now if you prefer.

No reason to wait for Petek and you can pass the zoomed in versions by him, too.

 

[Kilkakon]

Alrighty sure, I'll do that now then!

 

[vyeh]

Alrighty sure, I'll do that now then!

I look forward to seeing it. So all we need before you can post an alpha in this thread besides the zoomed in version is Petek's OK, right?

 

[Kilkakon]

That is correct!

Petek did say that he will discuss the units with the other moderators though, so it'll be a group decision rather than just his okay and may take a day or two.

EDIT: Done, finally! That took a lot longer than I had thought. Most of the images were easy enough to do such as the leaders as I had high resolution images of them already. Pictures for the monument were a lot harder but I'm happy enough with the final results.

 

[vyeh]

EDIT: Done, finally! That took a lot longer than I had thought. Most of the images were easy enough to do such as the leaders as I had high resolution images of them already. Pictures for the monument were a lot harder but I'm happy enough with the final results.

Feel free to send the images to me via email.

 

[Kilkakon]

Alright I'll send a zip to you now then! It'll be the G pictures of interest as I assume that's what you want to see.

EDIT: Apparently the units are not A-OK, which is a bit awkward. I can't really zoom a unit and I don't want to snip things either. I'll have to think about what to do there as I would to remain here if I can get away with it.

 

[vyeh]

Alright I'll send a zip to you now then! It'll be the G pictures of interest as I assume that's what you want to see.

Airdp_sm.png - I hope both of those appendages (yellow and brown) are tails!

monbig6.png - suggestive line at groin.

spartans.png, spartans3.png - rename blackbands or pirates

EDIT: Apparently the units are not A-OK, which is a bit awkward. I can't really zoom a unit and I don't want to snip things either. I'll have to think about what to do there as I would to remain here if I can get away with it.

I agree. I found problems with the following:

units - 1st row, 1st column; 6th row, 1st - 7th columns; 8th row, 1st column; 9th row, 1st column.

Is this the version you submitted to Petek?

 

[Kilkakon]

Airdp_sm.png - I hope both of those appendages (yellow and brown) are tails!

The one going right is the tail. The two small orange ones at the top are knees. It's a bigger version of the unit.

monbig6.png - suggestive line at groin.

Ah that one was so hard to try and fix as I don't have any higher resolution images of that character. I can work on it a bit more if required.

spartans.png, spartans3.png - rename blackbands or pirates

That faction replaces the spartans deliberately as only the Spartans have the extension to draw shield letters in white. It was necessary to replace all of the original txt files to remove the starting techs though as otherwise the game crashes when the mod is first installed.

I agree. I found problems with the following:

units - 1st row, 1st column; 6th row, 1st - 7th columns; 8th row, 1st column; 9th row, 1st column.

Is this the version you submitted to Petek?

Yes this is the version I submitted to Petek. I'm not sure what you mean by "problem" though.

I'll be honest and say I am not sure what to do at this point. Sure I can throw on maple leaves for the units so I can get something out here but I wouldn't be happy doing that for anything final (it seems cheap to me). Moving to another forum means I'm not allowed to advertise here either. I won't make any decision in the heat of the moment though (plus I was on roster for kids this week so I didn't get my normal recharge).

Ugh, it took 10 minutes to write that last paragraph.



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EDIT: Okay having time to think and relax a bit, I'll go with maple leaves for now so I can release here. I believe that should be fine as far as everything is concerned so I'll upload a copy of the TC shortly with the monbig6 pic fixed up and units given maple leaves.

As for a final "G" solution I'll do one of the following: Simple: Just stick with maple leaves. More work: I can redraw the units that are deemed unacceptable for this forum in a pose that covers everything up. I'ld prefer the redraw method creatively but I'll see how much work I need to do in other things first!

I'll edit this post again with a link if there's been no reply since this edit when everything's ready.

EDIT2: For peace of mind I'll PM Petek the zip I sent to vyeh (with the changes of course) before uploading so there's no surprises for anybody.

 

[vyeh]

The one going right is the tail. The two small orange ones at the top are knees. It's a bigger version of the unit.

I looked at the units picture. I can see the brown one with the red flame like tip is a tail. On the units., he has two brown/orange knees. Take a look at the yellow. I can see that in the unit picture, it is meant to be the chest but in Airdp_sm.png, it looks like something else.

Ah that one was so hard to try and fix as I don't have any higher resolution images of that character. I can work on it a bit more if required.

Do you have any capability of removing lines?

That faction replaces the spartans deliberately as only the Spartans have the extension to draw shield letters in white. It was necessary to replace all of the original txt files to remove the starting techs though as otherwise the game crashes when the mod is first installed.

So you have to call it spartans.png to get the white on black?

I'm not sure what you mean by "problem" though.

Genitalia.

I'll be honest and say I am not sure what to do at this point.

Or you can wait for Petek to get back to you.

Ugh, it took 10 minutes to write that last paragraph.

It wasn't the writing, it was the thinking.

I'll go with maple leaves for now so I can release here. I believe that should be fine as far as everything is concerned so I'll upload a copy of the TC shortly with the monbig6 pic fixed up and units given maple leaves.

Better to send the revised package to Petek first.

As for a final "G" solution I'll do one of the following: Simple: Just stick with maple leaves. More work: I can redraw the units that are deemed unacceptable for this forum in a pose that covers everything up. I'ld prefer the redraw method creatively but I'll see how much work I need to do in other things first!

Again, can you remove lines? Maple leaves seem like the preferable situation to me. And I mean actual maple leaves, not black circles.

I'll edit this post again with a link if there's been no reply since this edit when everything's ready.

How many edits are you planning to do to this post.

EDIT2: For peace of mind I'll PM Petek the zip I sent to vyeh (with the changes of course) before uploading so there's no surprises for anybody.

This Edit occurred after I first read the post. I guess you are here. I have already said this is a good idea.

EDIT: Has the map been finalized?

 

[Kilkakon]

I looked at the units picture. I can see the brown one with the red flame like tip is a tail. On the units., he has two brown/orange knees. Take a look at the yellow. I can see that in the unit picture, it is meant to be the chest but in Airdp_sm.png, it looks like something else.

Oh I see what you mean. It's just the anatomy of the charmanders, they have the yellow belly. What do you suggest there?

Do you have any capability of removing lines?

I do yes. In the case of the mentioned image, I was able to nudge up the blue areas to cover the line to which you referred, so it was an easy job.

So you have to call it spartans.png to get the white on black?

Yeah that's right. It's a bit annoying but oh well.

It wasn't the writing, it was the thinking.

Of course.

Better to send the revised package to Petek first.

Hehe great minds think alike! It's better to get things double-checked rather than cause unintentional problems.

Again, can you remove lines? Maple leaves seem like the preferable situation to me. And I mean actual maple leaves, not black circles.

Yeah I've done the maple leaves now. I'ld prefer redrawing in the long run but I'll see how much demand a G version generates first.

How many edits are you planning to do to this post.

Well one more if I was going to upload it then but I decided to double-check with Petek.

 

[vyeh]

Oh I see what you mean. It's just the anatomy of the charmanders, they have the yellow belly. What do you suggest there?

Maybe some shading to show that it is part of the belly.

I do yes

If you can remove lines, then fixes would be easy.

Yeah I've done the maple leaves now. I'ld prefer redrawing in the long run but I'll see how much demand a G version generates first.

You mean see how much demand the alpha version generates.

Well one more if I was going to upload it then but I decided to double-check with Petek.

Did you see my edit about the map? Double posts aren't always bad.

 

[Kilkakon]

Maybe some shading to show that it is part of the belly.

I'll see if Petek requests that one redone. If so I think that I will zoom it in further so it's just chest down rather than getting the knees in.

If you can remove lines, then fixes would be easy.

Oh of course, I just have a problem with neutering people really.

You mean see how much demand the alpha version generates.

I did mean G but you are more correct.

Did you see my edit about the map? Double posts aren't always bad.

I didn't no, sorry! I have finalised the map yes, I asked Petek about it in the same PM.

Thanks for all the help by the way.

 

[vyeh]

Oh of course, I just have a problem with neutering people really.

That is what it takes to get the G rating. You can keep PG for CGN.

I didn't no, sorry! I have finalised the map yes, I asked Petek about it in the same PM.

You shouldn't be sorry. I knew you were replying, but you would have probably missed my double post. I've often missed posts during a three or four way conversation.

Thanks for all the help by the way.

You're welcome. You should also be thanking JH24 for his work on the map. (I hope JH24 wasn't scared away!)

 

[Kilkakon]

That is what it takes to get the G rating. You can keep PG for CGN.

Maple leaves are a good solution I think.

I've preemptely updated the airdrop one with the suggestion I made too.

You shouldn't be sorry. I knew you were replying, but you would have probably missed my double post. I've often missed posts during a three or four way conversation.

Sure no worries.

You're welcome. You should also be thanking JH24 for his work on the map. (I hope JH24 wasn't scared away!)

Hahaha yeah let's hope. Thank you if you are out there JH24!

This'll be my last reply for a few hours as family's over so we are going to eat and do all the family sort of things.

 

[vyeh]

I've preemptely updated the airdrop one with the suggestion I made too.

Do you mean cropping it closer?

This'll be my last reply for a few hours as family's over so we are going to eat and do all the family sort of things.

I'm heading out, too. I think it has been a productive session.

 

[Kilkakon]

Do you mean cropping it closer?

I did yes.

Now to await Petek's response!