Lost Eden development thread

[Kilkakon]

I'll convert it to a tab-delimited text file then! Silly Mac not being compatible.

Here's the quotes so far. Some are pretty basic and/or may not be suitable, but just so you can see my musings. As for the assassin I'm having a bit of break first before getting into art.

Sorry for being a bit slow off the mark with replies today.

 

[vyeh]

Thanks. What does "#" signify, e.g.

Speaker # Quotes Faction Quote
Tristan 6 ?

 

[Kilkakon]

# = Number of. In this case, the number of quotes spoken by each leader.

 

[vyeh]

What is the target number of quotes for each faction?

I'll try to look at the quotes you've already sent me in 12+ hours or so. Part of the American Thanksgiving tradition is to eat a lot of turkey and sleep!

 

[Kilkakon]

What is the target number of quotes for each faction?

I'll try to look at the quotes you've already sent me in 12+ hours or so. Part of the American Thanksgiving tradition is to eat a lot of turkey and sleep!

The target is to have all the quotes done rather than have any target number for each faction. I was originally trying to have an even spread, but I'm happy to be flexible there.

I've just sent you a link to the pictures via email. God willing this will be the last revision! If so, what things do you think I should take into consideration for the posting of the alpha?

Und finally, I am going to a Yugioh tournament tomorrow! God willing I'll go well, but it does mean that I won't be able to respond to any more messages until the evening (about 18 hours from now!)

 

[vyeh]

The target is to have all the quotes done rather than have any target number for each faction. I was originally trying to have an even spread, but I'm happy to be flexible there.

How many quotes are needed?

I've just sent you a link to the pictures via email. God willing this will be the last revision![/quote]

Hopefully, it is the last. In general, it is not a good idea to label "latest eden updtate!" It will be confusing if there is another update. Pictures look good.

If so, what things do you think I should take into consideration for the posting of the alpha?

Map, scenario, faction files (7 or 14 depending on how comfortable you are with the last 7), alphax.txt, the other text files you have modified, text file with explanation, possible back story and warning about crashes if datalink is used incorrectly. You might also want to explain significant changes, e.g. no unit workshop.

Und finally, I am going to a Yugioh tournament tomorrow! God willing I'll go well, but it does mean that I won't be able to respond to any more messages until the evening (about 18 hours from now!)

That's fine. I'll try to look at the quotes before then and edit this post if you haven't responded before then. 14 more posts before 500!

EDIT: 1st quote (Tristan), 3rd sentence: been given a second
3rd quote (Darrus): my spell check says "civilised" should be "civilized"; should there be quotes around "Morning Address"?
4th quote (Oblivion): ya? Should there be quotes around "Dueling with Tristan"?
Charmander Courage: my spell check says "mobilise" should be "mobilize"
Advanced Human Warfare: Ha ha, look ... them, is it?
Demonic Rose Incantations: ... god now, mortal?
Christianity: strange character in itówe're and himóand
Realisation of Values: my spell check says it should be Realization
Absolute Power: another strange character in meÖ (twice)
Defence & Tactics: my spell check says it should be "Defense"
Combat Initiatives: my spell check says "honor" and "gloriously"

 

[Kilkakon]

Hopefully, it is the last. In general, it is not a good idea to label "latest eden updtate!" It will be confusing if there is another update. Pictures look good.

Ah sure. Petek's response was that it shouldn't be a speedo, but it's not meant to be a speedo but a loin cloth (primitive tech after all). We'll sort it out. I'll be sure to get a good idea of what's required before I get into artwork again, I don't want to waste another 3 hours of time editting away!

Map, scenario, faction files (7 or 14 depending on how comfortable you are with the last 7), alphax.txt, the other text files you have modified, text file with explanation, possible back story and warning about crashes if datalink is used incorrectly. You might also want to explain significant changes, e.g. no unit workshop.

Alright sure I'll keep all this in mind when we are ready to go.

That's fine. I'll try to look at the quotes before then and edit this post if you haven't responded before then. 14 more posts before 500!

EDIT: 1st quote (Tristan), 3rd sentence: been given a second
3rd quote (Darrus): my spell check says "civilised" should be "civilized"; should there be quotes around "Morning Address"?
4th quote (Oblivion): ya? Should there be quotes around "Dueling with Tristan"?
Charmander Courage: my spell check says "mobilise" should be "mobilize"
Advanced Human Warfare: Ha ha, look ... them, is it?
Demonic Rose Incantations: ... god now, mortal?
Christianity: strange character in itówe're and himóand
Realisation of Values: my spell check says it should be Realization
Absolute Power: another strange character in meÖ (twice)
Defence & Tactics: my spell check says it should be "Defense"
Combat Initiatives: my spell check says "honor" and "gloriously"

It appears that the conversion to Mac didn't go so great, the strange characters are probably Windows things that didn't carry over properly. I've added the suggested comments. All the spelling errors go away when using English instead of US for language.


I am soooo tired!

 

[vyeh]

All the spelling errors go away when using English instead of US for language.

So US spelling is wrong?

I am soooo tired!

Sounds like the Yugioh tournament was fun. What is Yugioh, anyway?

What else can I help you with?

 

[Kilkakon]

So US spelling is wrong?

Well outside US it is! I find it a bit annoying how US spelling creeps into non-US stuff all the time, it's a bit silly.

Sounds like the Yugioh tournament was fun. What is Yugioh, anyway?

What else can I help you with?

Yugioh is a children's card game.

Well at the moment it's really waiting for a good release to be ready. Once that's done, playtesting and all that should follow! Hopefully it should be no more than a few days.

 

[vyeh]

I find it a bit annoying how US spelling creeps into non-US stuff all the time, it's a bit silly.

Not annoying at all. Languages evolve.

Well at the moment it's really waiting for a good release to be ready. Once that's done, playtesting and all that should follow! Hopefully it should be no more than a few days.

Why don't you work on a back story? That is something I can review.

After that, you could start drafting one of the missing tech blurbs and I could react.

I hate wasting those few days (or longer). I'll have less time to devote to the internet Wednesday through Saturday.

EDIT:

I am soooo tired!

I guess you are. Normally, you are awake by now.

2ND EDIT: Time to sleep!

 

[Kilkakon]

Not annoying at all. Languages evolve.

Well it's more like when you guys had your whole independence thing, you deliberately changed the language because you wanted to be different. Now that you are a superpower, it's bled into other cultures somewhat. I was originally referring to games that I buy, even though they are Australian version developers often don't bother to fix up spelling. It's not that bad though, grammar's worse these days than bad spelling (once on a menu at a café I saw "Coffee's" ).

Why don't you work on a back story? That is something I can review.

After that, you could start drafting one of the missing tech blurbs and I could react.

I hate wasting those few days (or longer). I'll have less time to devote to the internet Wednesday through Saturday.

Alright sorry if I was at fault! I'll consider getting onto the things you suggested as soon as possible.

EDIT:

I guess you are. Normally, you are awake by now.

2ND EDIT: Time to sleep!

I was at church! On roster at kids again so I'm exhausted instead of recharged! I'll be right after a bit of relax and meditation though.

In other news, my ADSL filter is on its last legs, resulting in my net not only being painfully slow but also dropping out repeatedly. During typing this message it dropped out once too. It wouldn't really affect my purposes here (bar perhaps uploading the alpha) but I'll aim to replace the filter as soon as possible.

 

[vyeh]

Alright sorry if I was at fault! I'll consider getting onto the things you suggested as soon as possible.

You're not at fault. Let's start with a to-do list. What do you think you need to do for an alpha release?

 

[Kilkakon]

Good morning! I hope that you have a good day. As for how I am going, I've happily got AI working in my Dawn of War mod (wanted a change of pace) so I am planning to get into quotage after a short break now.

I'm happy with releasing as soon as I have a graphics set cleared by Petek. Quotes are the next big thing, as well as more graphics, but they aren't critical to the game.

 

[vyeh]

Good morning! I hope that you have a good day.

I will be doing a bit of interstate traveling in 14 hours, so I have to pack!

As for how I am going, I've happily got AI working in my Dawn of War mod (wanted a change of pace)

Precisely,what I am worried about! A distraction.

so I am planning to get into quotage after a short break now.

Lots of tech quotes.

I'm happy with releasing as soon as I have a graphics set cleared by Petek.

I see the following:

1) Instructions for playtesters - you might want to look at the SMAniaC download (it is somewhere in this forum - I'm sure Petek can give you a link if a search doesn't turn it up and see Maniac's instructions - in particular, testers should be told to either create a new directory or which files to back up!)

2) Back story

3) Short history of the project and goals of Lost Eden

Quotes are the next big thing, as well as more graphics, but they aren't critical to the game.

You mean critical the alpha release. The more quotes that can be put in the alpha, the more is tested at this stage. And the less that has to be done between alpha and beta. (I hope for extensive feedback from JH24 and others.)

 

[Kilkakon]

I will be doing a bit of interstate traveling in 14 hours, so I have to pack!

Oh have fun wherever you are going! I see what you mean about "reduced net access". If I release while you are away then I hope that you have a good time.

Precisely,what I am worried about! A distraction.

Haha the Dawn of War TC is older than this one is. It's one of those "I need a team of modellers/animators to release properly" mods. But it was only a few hours, honest!

Lots of tech quotes.

I should hope so. It's all about getting into the mood and zone of the character I'm writing for at the time. I'll try my best to get some done tonight, if not tomorrow.

I see the following:

1) Instructions for playtesters - you might want to look at the SMAniaC download (it is somewhere in this forum - I'm sure Petek can give you a link if a search doesn't turn it up and see Maniac's instructions - in particular, testers should be told to either create a new directory or which files to back up!)

2) Back story

3) Short history of the project and goals of Lost Eden

All important yeah. Instructions would be key -- I'll probably instruct people to make a clean install and patch as it's the easiest way to install the mod as otherwise there's over two hundred files in the TC. Backstory's easy enough. History and goals should be fine, I'll just need to decide what I want to say there.

You mean critical the alpha release. The more quotes that can be put in the alpha, the more is tested at this stage. And the less that has to be done between alpha and beta. (I hope for extensive feedback from JH24 and others.)

Sure the more the better for this release. I can also try to get some audio recorded too if you like.

 

[vyeh]

I should hope so. It's all about getting into the mood and zone of the character I'm writing for at the time. I'll try my best to get some done tonight, if not tomorrow.

Good.

All important yeah. Instructions would be key -- I'll probably instruct people to make a clean install and patch as it's the easiest way to install the mod as otherwise there's over two hundred files in the TC. Backstory's easy enough. History and goals should be fine, I'll just need to decide what I want to say there.

Or else duplicate their directory and copy your files into the duplicate directory. I can give you feedback on history and goals.

Sure the more the better for this release. I can also try to get some audio recorded too if you like.

I like.

 

[Kilkakon]

Update: I've managed to record 8 quotes of Oblivion and myself that I think are of a good standard. I've also got into tutor.txt and fixed it up. All while being on the 'phone for an hour and a half trying to get the net working! It's still really dodgy hey. :| I'll also try and fix something up for the production resource bonus for now too.

And JH24, thanks for the plug in the AI "too aggressive" thread.

 

[vyeh]

Update: I've managed to record 8 quotes of Oblivion and myself that I think are of a good standard.

Good.

I've also got into tutor.txt and fixed it up.

Is this the file that gives tips to players?

All while being on the 'phone for an hour and a half trying to get the net working! It's still really dodgy hey. :|

I tried to get to CFC a few hours ago and it wouldn't load; I assumed it was CFC.

I'll also try and fix something up for the production resource bonus for now too.

I don't understand. What production resource bonus.

And JH24, thanks for the plug in the AI "too aggressive" thread.

When you release the alpha, you should create a signature, e.g. Lost Eden alpha, with a link to the post that has the alpha. Then when you post in other threads, you are also plugging the alpha.

 

[Kilkakon]

Is this the file that gives tips to players?

Yes it is, I hadn't yet updated it with all the new terms.

I tried to get to CFC a few hours ago and it wouldn't load; I assumed it was CFC.

I couldn't get on the internet at all for a few hours.

I don't understand. What production resource bonus.

In SMAC, they are blue crystals on the ground or in the water. I would like to replace them.

When you release the alpha, you should create a signature, e.g. Lost Eden alpha, with a link to the post that has the alpha. Then when you post in other threads, you are also plugging the alpha.

Hehe sounds like a plan. Hopefully it won't be too far off.

 

[vyeh]

In SMAC, they are blue crystals on the ground or in the water. I would like to replace them.

Are you talking about new graphics or are you going to change the +2 value?

Hehe sounds like a plan. Hopefully it won't be too far off.

I'm surprised that you don't already have a signature with a link to this thread. Weren't you going to ask Petek to change the title of this thread?

Post 500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!