Lying-flatism

Senethro said:
So why should I work hard as part of loyalty to people who are not loyal to me?
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I think you should work hard for what you care about.

Taking a bigger piece of the pie from people who thrive off unfairness isn't loyalty to them
 
Joij21 said:
Well it's clear that lying flat is not a laborist movement like y'all be hoping. It more like incel ****. Therefore the masses naturally will reject and scoff at it comparing it to welfare mamas and use as an excuse to end all welfare as we know it.



I'm on corporatized welfare, it's called stock dividends. Therefore I hate these lazy lying-flaters. I need their surplus labour to sustain my laziness, but nevertheless they be trying to be lazy themselves and tax me using the much more societally undesirable system of government welfare.

Laziness is therefore a zero sum game whereby people like me need to force these people back into work so my corporatized welfare can pay me higher dividends so I don't have to work.

I like corporatized welfare cause I can convince the rest of society that I'm very smart and hardworking for investing but hate receiving government welfare because it is condemned as the system of lazy and stupid. Also government welfare is inferior to corporatized welfare because it is sustained through legalized theft, TAXATION!.
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Joij21 said:
That's the problem with those on the left.

Anyway when it comes to lying flat it would be a glorious opportunity for us reactionaries to easily oppress and silence labor protests. Because now that we both agree that lying flat is inceldom reactionaries can now further demonize future labor protest by making association between choosing not to work and being an incel.

Socialists now being on the fence will have no choice but to win over the masses by disavowing movements like lying flat which in turn leaves the few good faith laborists who where using such movements as a form of social protest against capitalism to feel jaded isolated by the larger socialist movement. This in turn limits the ability of socialists from having a recruiting pool to expand while classical forms of demonization like "Stalin bad, Mao bad" will keep the normal masses from becoming a viable recruiting pool.

Furthermore additional pressure and misinformation can be spread (mainly through Fox News and Bill Maher) as to take movements like lying flat and their linkage to inceldom to scapegoat socialists and the left in general as to being behind it all as well as being behind school shootings within the United States. This in turn creates outright hostility among the masses against the left which in turn helps uphold capitalism for the next few generations.
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Joij21 said:
Now I will surprise you. The aforementioned game plan I just mentioned is not actually the reactionary game plan. It is in fact rather the fascist game plan.

Us reactionaries only need to maintain the status quo, socialists oftentimes waste time and energy, and remain constantly paranoid of some kind of game plan which the reactionaries have. This constant guessing without anything actually happening serves the reactionaries well as it leaves the socialists unrefined and undetermined without a clear focus or passion.

I say the aforementioned is really the fascistic game plan because the fascists too want to overthrow the established system for their own gain but actually need a little back and forth vigilantism plus scapegoating so as to win the masses over to their side. They in essence need a socialist boogeyman like a Robespierre or Saint-Just with a clear focus and passion to scare the **** out of the bourgeoisie and form a so called "unholy alliance" so as to gain the necessary material support to further win over the masses. Therefore part of the back and forth would be to put a jack boot on the necks of socialists so as to put them through a crucible whereby they would become more refined and determinate whereby they could produce a proper boogeyman.

A true reactionary can therefore conclude that such would be a most sad and degenerate state of affairs to allow to take place. Therefore to maintain the status quo one must ignore lying flat movements, labor movements, and incel culture. Instead allowing the natural mindless and unconscious culture of things to take care of these particularities while still perpetuating the old classical mythos of hard work ethics and the American Dream. Some token things such as housing construction subsidiaries are to be allowed so as to alleviate inflationary pressures and stimulate consumption so as to increase demand for the extraction of more surplus labor. Subsidiaries on college loans may also be necessary (within reason). Neo liberal funding sourced from the surpluses extracted from immigrant labor then thrown into various banking and wallstreet trust funds which then in turn "subsidize" that is refinance the debt of said things.
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jesse what the fudge are you talking about
 
Not for determining how he wants to live his life.
 
Joij21 said:
Already a flaw in your argument.
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There is a difference between biological essentialism based off of what your friends say, and the trend of poor governance in the UK. I think the latter is better supported (Yes, I know I didn't actually say that at the time, but it was what I was thinking). Nice zinger tho.
 
Narz said:
I think you should work hard for what you care about.
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What if what I care about is winning arguments on the internet, getting 100% completion on my favorite video games, and masturbating
 
Joij21 said:
Then I reject evolution and accept intelligent design.
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Then how do you explain this?
Spoiler :

Platypus.jpg


Was the Intelligent Designer drunk, high or both?
 
Also, how do you explain how bees shouldn't be able to fly according to all known laws of aviation, yet they do? Checkmate, intelligent designers
 
Broken_Erika said:
Then how do you explain this?
Spoiler :

Platypus.jpg


Was the Intelligent Designer drunk, high or both?
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My father was a Homo Frugalensis, my grandfather's on both sides and great-grandfather on my father's side were all a member of Homo Smarticus having each descended from a long line of farmers and factory workers that can be best described as none other than Homo Productens which in turn split off from the main line of Homo Sapiens. I having no other choice but to become a Homo Economicus so my offspring can be little primates of the species Homo Wealthicus, which thereby causes the grandchildren to be members of Homo Spoilensis, which in turn produces great-grandchildren of Homo Homelensis.

It is simply the natural order of things. ;)
 
choxorn said:
What if what I care about is winning arguments on the internet, getting 100% completion on my favorite video games, and masturbating
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In that order? Because if you don't prioritize, I can see various of those interfering with various of the others--in certain ways.
 
Maybe there are modes of winning arguments that, despite a pretty advanced education in rhetoric, I'm not aware of. :dunno:
 
Gori the Grey said:
In that order? Because if you don't prioritize, I can see various of those interfering with various of the others--in certain ways.
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Any Order Any% Speedrun

Broken_Erika said:
At the same time?
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To the extent possible. I need at least one hand for all three activities, after all.

GenMarshall said:
Maybe he’s going for that super hard multitasking achievement. 🤔
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Well something's super hard eyyyyyyyy

(it's the video game one, some of those achievements are insane)

Gori the Grey said:
Maybe there are modes of winning arguments I'm not aware of, despite a pretty advanced education in rhetoric.
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Dunking on random internet people is my fetish don't kinkshame me
 
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