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MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Eh...not exactly.
Although I'll probably make this leader Neutral instead of Good like Cardith, this one looks to cruel and evil. He also seems to embody the wild, licentious nature associated with centaurs, while I envision the leader as being a more civilized centaur like Chiron. I see him as a much older centaur that has grown tame and kind in his old age, and devoted himself to civilizing the Centaur race. He is also the closest adviser to and practically the adopted father of Cardith, although he too is rather fearful of the "Lorda"(Eurabatres) personality. Cardith has always been kind to him, but he sometimes suspects he knows the truth: that all the kindness he has shown to the boy came from the guilt over having personally killed Cardiths parents and burned their village to the ground in a raid he lead in his younger years.
He should be older, probably with gray or graying hair and beard, a more thoughtful (maybe worried) countenance, a little less muscular, probably wearing some clothing (a breastplate and a cloak over his shoulders would be nice), and with a much less massive weapon. He isn't much of a fighter anymore, but is still a very skilled field tactician.
Edit: xienwolfs recommendation might be a little closer, but it seems too lean and like a possible violation of the princess rule. I'm thinking the horse part should be like a heavy warhorse, and the torso should be somewhat stouter as well. He should look much older than Cuteunits, but more battle hardened that xienwolf's.
Although I'll probably make this leader Neutral instead of Good like Cardith, this one looks to cruel and evil. He also seems to embody the wild, licentious nature associated with centaurs, while I envision the leader as being a more civilized centaur like Chiron. I see him as a much older centaur that has grown tame and kind in his old age, and devoted himself to civilizing the Centaur race. He is also the closest adviser to and practically the adopted father of Cardith, although he too is rather fearful of the "Lorda"(Eurabatres) personality. Cardith has always been kind to him, but he sometimes suspects he knows the truth: that all the kindness he has shown to the boy came from the guilt over having personally killed Cardiths parents and burned their village to the ground in a raid he lead in his younger years.
He should be older, probably with gray or graying hair and beard, a more thoughtful (maybe worried) countenance, a little less muscular, probably wearing some clothing (a breastplate and a cloak over his shoulders would be nice), and with a much less massive weapon. He isn't much of a fighter anymore, but is still a very skilled field tactician.
Edit: xienwolfs recommendation might be a little closer, but it seems too lean and like a possible violation of the princess rule. I'm thinking the horse part should be like a heavy warhorse, and the torso should be somewhat stouter as well. He should look much older than Cuteunits, but more battle hardened that xienwolf's.
kenken244
Grammar Nazi
I read the plans for the new weapon system and I have a few comments:
1. The nullstone weapons seem to make the crown of azakrien underpowered. you already would not want to take it out of its city, and now that you can get the same effect for just a few gold, not having to build an expensive wonder, it is even weaker. I think it should make spells be more powerful and less easily resisted, and make the rate of exp gain be greatly increased
2. Shoudn't lead weapons add poison strength instead of regular? it seems wierd that getting cut up by lead weapons is not going to give you lead poisoning but simply holding it will. It might be interesting to let assasins get lead wapons too then.
3. are you going to allow melee disciple units to get weapon promotions?
1. The nullstone weapons seem to make the crown of azakrien underpowered. you already would not want to take it out of its city, and now that you can get the same effect for just a few gold, not having to build an expensive wonder, it is even weaker. I think it should make spells be more powerful and less easily resisted, and make the rate of exp gain be greatly increased
2. Shoudn't lead weapons add poison strength instead of regular? it seems wierd that getting cut up by lead weapons is not going to give you lead poisoning but simply holding it will. It might be interesting to let assasins get lead wapons too then.
3. are you going to allow melee disciple units to get weapon promotions?
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
1. I'm actually thinking I'll probably not include nullstone weapons anyway, or the resource (but still the Nullstone Citadel Wonder). It seems like more trouble than its worth, and yeah, it might nerf the Crown of Akarien. I may instead make a nullstone item that provides this effect, and is only gained through random events (probably just appending it to the list of items the adventure event can find)
2. I'm pretty lead poisoning almost always results only from long term exposure to/accumulation of lead. Lead wouldn't be toxic if it didn't bond to enzymes that are supposed to bond with iron/zinc/calcium, but not perform the role that those metals would. I considered giving +1 poison, but even that seemed a little much.
3. I'll probably let some disciples (Paladins, Eidola, Paramanders, Crusaders, Stygian Guards, maybe Sphener/Mardero, possibly RoK disciples) use weapons, but most disciple won't be able to.
2. I'm pretty lead poisoning almost always results only from long term exposure to/accumulation of lead. Lead wouldn't be toxic if it didn't bond to enzymes that are supposed to bond with iron/zinc/calcium, but not perform the role that those metals would. I considered giving +1 poison, but even that seemed a little much.
3. I'll probably let some disciples (Paladins, Eidola, Paramanders, Crusaders, Stygian Guards, maybe Sphener/Mardero, possibly RoK disciples) use weapons, but most disciple won't be able to.
That is how lead poisoning works. Real life lead weapons, such as lead shot, do not cause lead poisoning unless they stay lodged inside and break down.
thomas.berubeg
Wandering the World
Someon along the lines of
Spoiler :
Rex rgis of Ter
Me I'm a Creator
@ thomas.berubeg
I think you could use that if you edited it heavily. If you've seen the TAM mod, it's all LHs from movies like Troy that have been made very blurry. It could work well, espescially in creating a very dark mood from the Centaurs penetance from killing Lorda's parents. What will the new leader's traits be? I'd go Sprawling/Raiders/Charismatic. Also, I'd like him to have a warmongerer personality, similar to Alexis.
I think you could use that if you edited it heavily. If you've seen the TAM mod, it's all LHs from movies like Troy that have been made very blurry. It could work well, espescially in creating a very dark mood from the Centaurs penetance from killing Lorda's parents. What will the new leader's traits be? I'd go Sprawling/Raiders/Charismatic. Also, I'd like him to have a warmongerer personality, similar to Alexis.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Well, I don't think I want to steal a photo from The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe movie. I doubt any photo could be made to fit in well with the other leaders.
I'm also not sure why the human part looks so non-human. I guess its ok since they are a totally different species, but I don't think the Centaur units have ears or a jaw like that (admittedly, it's hard to tell because of their size) and I'm not a fan it for their leader. And of course, he looks to young to me.
I don't think the Centaur should be wearing a saddle, unless perhaps if he is carrying a very young (maybe sleeping?) Cardith on his back in his pic.
I haven't really decided about his traits yet. Raiders would certainly make sense for him in his youth, and would probably still be fine. However, Raiders and Charismatic together are probably overpowered. How would Raiders/Philosophical be? I'm also undecided about whether both Kuriotates leaders need the Sprawling trait.
I'm also not sure why the human part looks so non-human. I guess its ok since they are a totally different species, but I don't think the Centaur units have ears or a jaw like that (admittedly, it's hard to tell because of their size) and I'm not a fan it for their leader. And of course, he looks to young to me.
I don't think the Centaur should be wearing a saddle, unless perhaps if he is carrying a very young (maybe sleeping?) Cardith on his back in his pic.
I haven't really decided about his traits yet. Raiders would certainly make sense for him in his youth, and would probably still be fine. However, Raiders and Charismatic together are probably overpowered. How would Raiders/Philosophical be? I'm also undecided about whether both Kuriotates leaders need the Sprawling trait.
Rex rgis of Ter
Me I'm a Creator
Then how about Raiders/Creative. It says in your description he seeks the civilization of the Centaur race, so a culture bonus makes sense.
When Lamia's are finally put in the game will make a a leader for them. Arcane/Expansive Lamia Queen.
When Lamia's are finally put in the game will make a a leader for them. Arcane/Expansive Lamia Queen.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
I'm thinking of adding a "Mount" spell allowing goblins on the same tile as a wolf/wolf pack to become a wolf rider (since I can't seem to get the old way of auto-promoting from combat to work), and thinking it would also be cool to let Svartalfar scouts mount on giant spiders to form a new spider rider UU.
If you like the idea and have the skills feel free to make the graphics for me. Just using the svartalfar scout and giant spider graphics (with the scout sitting on the spider's back) would be fine, and I don't think it would be very hard (although I have no clue how to do it. My modding abilities are purely xml/python.)
If you like the idea and have the skills feel free to make the graphics for me. Just using the svartalfar scout and giant spider graphics (with the scout sitting on the spider's back) would be fine, and I don't think it would be very hard (although I have no clue how to do it. My modding abilities are purely xml/python.)
Rex rgis of Ter
Me I'm a Creator
This Thread discussed this. This is my idea for it.
It would be interesting if a Spider Pen allowed you to make spider riders.
Spider Pen
Can be built by a Spider
Provides 1 silk
Can build Spider Riders
The Tainted Web
World Wonder
Requires Animal Handling
Requires Spider Pen
Double Production with Shadow Mana
Creates a Spider Pen in all cities
Spider Rider
Requires Spider Pen or Stirrups
2, double movement in forest
4, +1 poison
Invisible to most units
I'm not sure as too the hammer costs.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Yeah, but it doesn't include the graphics. Thats the part I don't know how to do.
I don't intend to add the wonder, and may or may not allow you to actually build them (definitely not without a spider pen).
I do think that allowing them to build a web terrain improvement would be nice. It would be buildable out side of borders, and could render units on the tile immobile for a turn (each turn the unit on the tile would either be held one more turn, or it would destroy the web). It would probably have a large negative combat bonus associated with it. (I might allow normal giant spider to build these too.)
I don't intend to add the wonder, and may or may not allow you to actually build them (definitely not without a spider pen).
I do think that allowing them to build a web terrain improvement would be nice. It would be buildable out side of borders, and could render units on the tile immobile for a turn (each turn the unit on the tile would either be held one more turn, or it would destroy the web). It would probably have a large negative combat bonus associated with it. (I might allow normal giant spider to build these too.)
Cuteunit
Danse Macabre
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MagisterCultuum
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Rex rgis of Ter
Me I'm a Creator
What are your plans for the Illians/Ice Sphere? I'm interested in what you have planned.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
I already listed all I'd come up with in a spoiler at the bottom of the third post. I've been really busy lately, and haven't had time to implement anything.
Cuteunit
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MagisterCultuum
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I am still probably way to busy to be working on this, but today I have been anyway. I think I've already implemented everything from the first version that I intend to, and have begun to implement some of the new stuff. here is the current (as of 9pm on Friday, 2/8/2008) changelog:
Since he next version is based on the Unit Statistics modmod for FfH 0.30h, instead of the main game. You should probably install it before installing the next version of my mod. It can be found here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=261642
On the other hand, I don't think I've found any files that both mods need to change. It would probably be fine to install my mod first, or not to use the stats mod at all.
If you want you game to be just like mine (which is not really necessary), you would also need to download the "Fangorn Style" Ancient Forests graphics here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=6270791&postcount=410
It really isn't necesary though, its just for show.
Spoiler :
Since he next version is based on the Unit Statistics modmod for FfH 0.30h, instead of the main game. You should probably install it before installing the next version of my mod. It can be found here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=261642
On the other hand, I don't think I've found any files that both mods need to change. It would probably be fine to install my mod first, or not to use the stats mod at all.
If you want you game to be just like mine (which is not really necessary), you would also need to download the "Fangorn Style" Ancient Forests graphics here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=6270791&postcount=410
It really isn't necesary though, its just for show.
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