IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
So, what's the plan? I'll play either 9 or 19 turns, just because I can't stand ending in a turn that doesn't end in 0. Anything in particular you want me to aim for?
Matrix1 - Ziggurat Addiction
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Mikehendi
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*applause*
Great job, even if you did have to suicide all our troops and whip away all our citizens to make it happen.
I don't think I've ever whipped so much in such a short timeframe. But with almost 20 happy faces in size 4-8 cities, most of which are working crap land or being some self-proclaimed "master spy" (<-- think Dr. Evil here with his "fingers"), well, they were just asking for it!
Metal Boats and GiftfromtheGods were whipped so hard because they have good food sources and many crappy coast tiles (and a crappy spy spec). I was careful not to whip the capital or any villagers working resources.
@ IO
I think we want to
the rest of freds land soon, say, about the turn when the peace treaty ends 
Keep most EP on shaka, he's the only one teching useful things during my turnset
City revolts cost about 200-300 EP now, so if you want to attack Fred, check if you have enough EP for a revolt or 3 (I think we already have enough EP for that)
Brian Shanahan
Permanoob
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lurker's comment: Sheesh, and it's not like any of them are even playing in the SGOTM. If this keeps up Mikhendi you should play yourself and move the thread to Strategy and Tips.
IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
My bad, my bad...
I'll play sometime in the next 10 hours, I promise.
I'll play sometime in the next 10 hours, I promise.
IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
I'm sorry, after much waiting, I'm going to have to break my own rule and request a skip. Please forgive me...
MatrixTheKitty
Skitty
ಠ_ಠ
Matrix - up
Happyturtle - on deck
Mikehendi - just went
IdiotsOpposite - skip
Got it. Will probably post a PPP today.
Matrix - up
Happyturtle - on deck
Mikehendi - just went
IdiotsOpposite - skip
Got it. Will probably post a PPP today.
MatrixTheKitty
Skitty
PPP:
The Cow Is Ours: Spy -> Workboat
Use workboat to get the clams near Patal, cancel clams for iron trade with Boudica
Switch Delhi and Patal to Ziggurats. *hits Mike with a codfish for forgetting that variant rule*
BTW, why do we have workshops in Kish? Caste System is useless to us, and with Guilds, workshops are only 3h. 3h0f0c tiles suck...
Anyways, I have a plan for Kish's growth. Grow onto the 3f farms, then the 1f2h forest (lumbermill eventually) then grow onto the 6c incense tile and stagnate. Because unless we pop resources on those desert hills or plains, everthing else is useless.
Other than that, I'll just be continuing the military and spy buildup, and assign spy specs at 6pop where applicable. Oh, and castles. We should get those.
DoW Fred when the treaty goes away and crush him further with our huge stack.
The Cow Is Ours: Spy -> Workboat
Use workboat to get the clams near Patal, cancel clams for iron trade with Boudica
Switch Delhi and Patal to Ziggurats. *hits Mike with a codfish for forgetting that variant rule*
BTW, why do we have workshops in Kish? Caste System is useless to us, and with Guilds, workshops are only 3h. 3h0f0c tiles suck...
Anyways, I have a plan for Kish's growth. Grow onto the 3f farms, then the 1f2h forest (lumbermill eventually) then grow onto the 6c incense tile and stagnate. Because unless we pop resources on those desert hills or plains, everthing else is useless.
Other than that, I'll just be continuing the military and spy buildup, and assign spy specs at 6pop where applicable. Oh, and castles. We should get those.
DoW Fred when the treaty goes away and crush him further with our huge stack.
Mikehendi
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Sorry for forgetting the rule 
I just was too busy feasting on the spoils of war 
EDIT: O yeah, the reason I was going to post, was to say that the plan looks good. Since we can't tech faster then the AI's we should consider selling techs for diplo and/or money if available. OTOH, it's noce to be able to investigate every AI city in the world while keeping up with tech at the same time
I just was too busy feasting on the spoils of war EDIT: O yeah, the reason I was going to post, was to say that the plan looks good. Since we can't tech faster then the AI's we should consider selling techs for diplo and/or money if available. OTOH, it's noce to be able to investigate every AI city in the world while keeping up with tech at the same time
MatrixTheKitty
Skitty
Alright, so I probably won't have time to play today, so I'll play tomorrow.
MatrixTheKitty
Skitty
Turn 0:
Switched Delhi and Pataliputra to Ziggurats
Turn 1:
Pink Dot Kish: Maceman -> Mace
Metal Boats Nibru: Maceman -> Walls
Lagash gets to 6pop
Turn 2:
Metal Boats Nibru: Walls -> Castle
Qin completes Chichen Itza
Shaka switches to Bureaucracy
Nibru gets to 6pop
Turn 3:
Uruk: Mace -> Castle
Amazing Eridu: Longbowman -> Walls
The Cow Is Ours: Spy -> Walls
Turn 4:
Pink Dot Kish: Maceman -> Walls
Boudica switches to Theocracy
Eridu and Marbalous get to 6pop
Turn 5:
Amazing Eridu: Walls -> Castle
Turn 6:
Uruk: Castle -> Trebuchet
Pink Dot Kish: Walls -> Castle
Me: Hey, Shaka, buddy! That's a nice.. uh, what is that you've got there?
Shaka: It's a violin. Do you like it?
Me: Yeah, it sounds nice.
*later that night*
*snuck into Shaka's palace and swipes the violin*
(Stole Music from Shaka)
*Walks vaguely towards Freddy, playing the violin to a sad tune*
*the tune gets more upbeat, more warlike, as I get closer to Fred*
*when I'm right beside him, it stops abruptly as I clobber Fred with the violin*
(DoW on Fred)
Turn 7:
Uruk: Trebuchet -> Horse Archer
Happy Camp Ur: Spy -> Wealth
Marbalous Lake: Spy -> Walls
Boudical DoWs on Washington
Turn 8:
Captured Varanasi
Varanasi: -> Ziggurat
Cow and Gift get to 6pop
Captured Vijayanagara
Vijayanagara: -> Ziggurat
A Great General (Robert E. Lee) sppears in Eridu
Turn 9:
The Cow Is Ours: Walls -> Castle
Turn 10:
Washington: You there! Aid me in taking down this wench!
Me: I'm kind of busy right now, can't you see!? *beating on Freddy*
(Washington asks us to DoW Boudica, I say no)
Uruk: Horse Archer -> Trebuchet
Pink Dot Kish: Castle -> Longbowman
Drunk Lagash: Spy -> Market
Turn 11:
Amazing Eridu: Castle -> Wealth
Qin completes Notre Dame
Captured Bombay
Bombay: -> Ziggurat
Turn 12:
Boudica: Hey! Ziggurat guy! C'mere and beat on Washington a while!
Me: As I already told him, I'M BUSY, DAMNIT! *continues beating on Freddy*
Pink Dot Kish: Longbowman -> War Elephant
Turn 13:
Boudica: Then stop giving him stuff!
Me: Stop giving him what? All there is is Open Borders.
Boudica: Then stop that!
Me: *facepalm, continues beating on Freddy*
Turn 14:
Uruk: ...something I forget; I didn't write it down
Pink Dot Kish: War Elephant -> Maceman
Metal Boats Nibru: Castle -> Wealth
Marbalous Lake: Walls -> Castle
Delhi: Ziggurat -> Culture
Turn 15:
Washington switches to Theocracy
Turn 16:
*I stand there over Freddy, exhausted*
*Boudica and Washington are still going at it, I think they are secretly in love*
*Shaka walks up to me*
Shaka: What's with Fred?
Me: He's dead, Shaka. I killed him.
Shaka: Alright! *holds up hand*
*I high five Shaka*
*we go to celebrate*
*During the party, I sneak out back and find a copy of his Guild charter and take it*
Captured Lahore, defeating India
Lahore: -> Ziggurat
Stole Guilds from Shaka
Overview:
So I forgot to do that whole workboat thing with the clams... yeah.
We're gonna need more commerce. We're at 50% Espionage, and that's with three cities building Wealth...
The Save
So, I remember Happyturtle saying that she's better at after-war infrastructure buildup than war itself. Well, that's what's coming up in the next, set, so..
Matrix - just went
Happyturtle - up
Mikehendi - on deck
IdiotsOpposite
Switched Delhi and Pataliputra to Ziggurats
Turn 1:
Pink Dot Kish: Maceman -> Mace
Metal Boats Nibru: Maceman -> Walls
Lagash gets to 6pop
Turn 2:
Metal Boats Nibru: Walls -> Castle
Qin completes Chichen Itza
Shaka switches to Bureaucracy
Nibru gets to 6pop
Turn 3:
Uruk: Mace -> Castle
Amazing Eridu: Longbowman -> Walls
The Cow Is Ours: Spy -> Walls
Turn 4:
Pink Dot Kish: Maceman -> Walls
Boudica switches to Theocracy
Eridu and Marbalous get to 6pop
Turn 5:
Amazing Eridu: Walls -> Castle
Turn 6:
Uruk: Castle -> Trebuchet
Pink Dot Kish: Walls -> Castle
Me: Hey, Shaka, buddy! That's a nice.. uh, what is that you've got there?
Shaka: It's a violin. Do you like it?
Me: Yeah, it sounds nice.
*later that night*
*snuck into Shaka's palace and swipes the violin*
(Stole Music from Shaka)
*Walks vaguely towards Freddy, playing the violin to a sad tune*
*the tune gets more upbeat, more warlike, as I get closer to Fred*
*when I'm right beside him, it stops abruptly as I clobber Fred with the violin*
(DoW on Fred)
Turn 7:
Uruk: Trebuchet -> Horse Archer
Happy Camp Ur: Spy -> Wealth
Marbalous Lake: Spy -> Walls
Boudical DoWs on Washington
Turn 8:
Captured Varanasi
Varanasi: -> Ziggurat
Cow and Gift get to 6pop
Captured Vijayanagara
Vijayanagara: -> Ziggurat
A Great General (Robert E. Lee) sppears in Eridu
Turn 9:
The Cow Is Ours: Walls -> Castle
Turn 10:
Washington: You there! Aid me in taking down this wench!
Me: I'm kind of busy right now, can't you see!? *beating on Freddy*
(Washington asks us to DoW Boudica, I say no)
Uruk: Horse Archer -> Trebuchet
Pink Dot Kish: Castle -> Longbowman
Drunk Lagash: Spy -> Market
Turn 11:
Amazing Eridu: Castle -> Wealth
Qin completes Notre Dame
Captured Bombay
Bombay: -> Ziggurat
Turn 12:
Boudica: Hey! Ziggurat guy! C'mere and beat on Washington a while!
Me: As I already told him, I'M BUSY, DAMNIT! *continues beating on Freddy*
Pink Dot Kish: Longbowman -> War Elephant
Turn 13:
Boudica: Then stop giving him stuff!
Me: Stop giving him what? All there is is Open Borders.
Boudica: Then stop that!
Me: *facepalm, continues beating on Freddy*
Turn 14:
Uruk: ...something I forget; I didn't write it down
Pink Dot Kish: War Elephant -> Maceman
Metal Boats Nibru: Castle -> Wealth
Marbalous Lake: Walls -> Castle
Delhi: Ziggurat -> Culture
Turn 15:
Washington switches to Theocracy
Turn 16:
*I stand there over Freddy, exhausted*
*Boudica and Washington are still going at it, I think they are secretly in love*
*Shaka walks up to me*
Shaka: What's with Fred?
Me: He's dead, Shaka. I killed him.
Shaka: Alright! *holds up hand*
*I high five Shaka*
*we go to celebrate*
*During the party, I sneak out back and find a copy of his Guild charter and take it*
Captured Lahore, defeating India
Lahore: -> Ziggurat
Stole Guilds from Shaka
Overview:
So I forgot to do that whole workboat thing with the clams... yeah.
We're gonna need more commerce. We're at 50% Espionage, and that's with three cities building Wealth...
The Save
So, I remember Happyturtle saying that she's better at after-war infrastructure buildup than war itself. Well, that's what's coming up in the next, set, so..
Matrix - just went
Happyturtle - up
Mikehendi - on deck
IdiotsOpposite
Mikehendi
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Nice round! I couldn't help noticing that kind mr. Qin is building lots of shiny thingy's for us! How nice of him!
EDIT:
My thoughts on the next set:
1. sell literature to washington for 250g.
2. Whip the 3 ziggurats in the captured cities (to avoid starvation/working citizens)
3. Metal Boats should be our globe theathre city, for whipping it hard and future drafting. So start building some theaters.
4. Build/whip Markets and grocers in high-commerce cities, like the capital, delhi (shrined) and such.
5. It's ok to build wealth in crappy cities. Crappy cities will be very ok with basic buildings and the future espionage set, while building wealth.
6. Drunk Lagash should whip a theathre and both monasteries ASAP for culture, we're about to lose our village/wine (this is really urgent, the ethiopian city is one border pop ahead of us, we really need to race towards the 750 culture here)
EDIT:
My thoughts on the next set:
1. sell literature to washington for 250g.
2. Whip the 3 ziggurats in the captured cities (to avoid starvation/working citizens)
3. Metal Boats should be our globe theathre city, for whipping it hard and future drafting. So start building some theaters.
4. Build/whip Markets and grocers in high-commerce cities, like the capital, delhi (shrined) and such.
5. It's ok to build wealth in crappy cities. Crappy cities will be very ok with basic buildings and the future espionage set, while building wealth.
6. Drunk Lagash should whip a theathre and both monasteries ASAP for culture, we're about to lose our village/wine (this is really urgent, the ethiopian city is one border pop ahead of us, we really need to race towards the 750 culture here)
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Sorry. I need a skip. 
Mikehendi
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100 Years of rejoicing and rebuilding the former indian empire, crowned with the birth of our next Great Spy!
A less detailed report, but a lot of screenshots as always!
t287 and onwards:
Sel lit to washington for 250g and renegotiate almost all trade deals for more gold, until it looks like this:
Whipped some cities, started some theatres, convinced some population from giftfromthegods to become leave their city and become hindu missionaries (seemed fitting to "extract" them here
).
Distributed some troops around to have at least 2 per city, and Pink dot Kish produced almost nothing but longbows for the session.
Set slider to 100% EP until some gold multipliers are up.
T291: Islam FIDL
T292: All cities are out of revolt
T293: Boudica captures one of Washington's cities and they sign peace (no one vassels) and:
Note: only 77% success rate. He probably has a spy sitting there, reducing our succes chances. Other cities of his have 96ish% succes rate, so I spread some spies around in different cities, so we have some options.
T294: Back to 100% Gold
T297:
He's Isolated, but has 13 cities! This means that:
He's more advanced. I buy his map (how convienient!), and after 1 turn of 100% EP we have:
City visibility! Depite our EE, we're 3rd in tech! And that's only because we didn't yet have a chance to steal from Mao!
I went on and removed the Great Northern Jungle sign... It just wasn't so... great anymore
T302: Steal gunpowder from Qin
I destroyed an egyptian obelisk and the current production of a monastery to prevent his expansion of cultural borders here
If you look closely, I settled the final city in the former Great Northern Jungle, now known as the Not-so-great Northern fields of Grass, soon known as the Great northern Farmed region.
It still wasn't settled by shaka, because it's behind washington's borders, and washington also didn't settle it. Sofar, another lesson for us in AI settling mechanics!
T306:
This one I stole from the northern city. Note the difference in succes chance.
And I started the Taj in Eridu... Which turned out quite less amazing as I thought in the early game!
T308: Mao proves the world is round! And the session is ended with the birth of Moe Berg, who is merged into the cap.
1) We still have a GG waiting around, I suppose we want to make a medic III, or settle him in delhi for 3 promo units (2-->3 settled GG + vassalage + barracks)
2) 2 spies in caravels are on the way to Mao's land, 1 city is producing a 3rd caravel (and has a spy waiting next to it) for the same purpose.
3) I queued up some trebs in the cap to not accidentaly finish the sistine chapel I started for failure cash.
4) Tech sucks: 1440 AD and look at it!
Save is attached to previous post!
A less detailed report, but a lot of screenshots as always!
t287 and onwards:
Sel lit to washington for 250g and renegotiate almost all trade deals for more gold, until it looks like this:
Whipped some cities, started some theatres, convinced some population from giftfromthegods to become leave their city and become hindu missionaries (seemed fitting to "extract" them here
).Distributed some troops around to have at least 2 per city, and Pink dot Kish produced almost nothing but longbows for the session.
Set slider to 100% EP until some gold multipliers are up.
T291: Islam FIDL
T292: All cities are out of revolt
T293: Boudica captures one of Washington's cities and they sign peace (no one vassels) and:
Note: only 77% success rate. He probably has a spy sitting there, reducing our succes chances. Other cities of his have 96ish% succes rate, so I spread some spies around in different cities, so we have some options.
T294: Back to 100% Gold
T297:
He's Isolated, but has 13 cities! This means that:
He's more advanced. I buy his map (how convienient!), and after 1 turn of 100% EP we have:
City visibility! Depite our EE, we're 3rd in tech! And that's only because we didn't yet have a chance to steal from Mao!
I went on and removed the Great Northern Jungle sign... It just wasn't so... great anymore
T302: Steal gunpowder from Qin
I destroyed an egyptian obelisk and the current production of a monastery to prevent his expansion of cultural borders here
If you look closely, I settled the final city in the former Great Northern Jungle, now known as the Not-so-great Northern fields of Grass, soon known as the Great northern Farmed region.
It still wasn't settled by shaka, because it's behind washington's borders, and washington also didn't settle it. Sofar, another lesson for us in AI settling mechanics!
T306:
This one I stole from the northern city. Note the difference in succes chance.
And I started the Taj in Eridu... Which turned out quite less amazing as I thought in the early game!
T308: Mao proves the world is round! And the session is ended with the birth of Moe Berg, who is merged into the cap.
1) We still have a GG waiting around, I suppose we want to make a medic III, or settle him in delhi for 3 promo units (2-->3 settled GG + vassalage + barracks)
2) 2 spies in caravels are on the way to Mao's land, 1 city is producing a 3rd caravel (and has a spy waiting next to it) for the same purpose.
3) I queued up some trebs in the cap to not accidentaly finish the sistine chapel I started for failure cash.
4) Tech sucks: 1440 AD and look at it!
Save is attached to previous post!
MatrixTheKitty
Skitty
Matrix - on deck
Happyturtle - skip
Mikehendi - just went
IdiotsOpposite - up
Happyturtle - skip
Mikehendi - just went
IdiotsOpposite - up
IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
Oh, It's my turn?
I'll probably play in the next six hours.
Anything in particular you want me to do, other than steal techs from Mao and Shaka?
I'll probably play in the next six hours.
Anything in particular you want me to do, other than steal techs from Mao and Shaka?
IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
A little late, but I played. We had bad luck with one of our spies, so I only stole one tech this turnset...
Here's the save in advance.
AD 1490
EDIT: The turn report is as follows. Pretty simple, really. Mainly because I didn't want to tweak much.
First, here's the log.
Now, I opened to turn 308, found that all was well, we were in the lead in tech except for Mao (grr....), so I just pressed enter.
TURN 309
Not much, I realized that with no instructions for workers, I just messed around any way I could. Roads, farms, and cottages mainly. Especially farms.
Also, Kish and Cow both built spies, so I set Kish to a Market and Cow to a Lighthouse.
TURN 310
Not much, Marbalous builds a spy so I set it to a forge.
TURN 311
Vija builds a Hindu Temple, I begin a harbor.
TURN 312
Nothing of import.
TURN 313
Washington asks us this. What do you think I say in response? NO!
Also, Cow finishes that lighthouse and starts a forge.
TURN 314
MetalBoats finishes the Globe theatre. Why are we building the Globe theatre in Metal Boats? Whatever, it starts a Hindu Temple.
TURN 315
Bombay finishes a caravel and starts a spy.
TURN 316
Nothing.
TURN 317
Well, Happy Camp Ur finishes and starts a spy, and I decide to attempt to steal Paper.
We fail. Still sore over that, I notice the Aztecs just got Military Tradition. So I try that, and...
SUCCESS!!
That's all.
Here's the save in advance.
AD 1490
EDIT: The turn report is as follows. Pretty simple, really. Mainly because I didn't want to tweak much.
First, here's the log.
Spoiler :
Now, I opened to turn 308, found that all was well, we were in the lead in tech except for Mao (grr....), so I just pressed enter.
TURN 309
Not much, I realized that with no instructions for workers, I just messed around any way I could. Roads, farms, and cottages mainly. Especially farms.
Also, Kish and Cow both built spies, so I set Kish to a Market and Cow to a Lighthouse.
TURN 310
Not much, Marbalous builds a spy so I set it to a forge.
TURN 311
Vija builds a Hindu Temple, I begin a harbor.
TURN 312
Nothing of import.
TURN 313
Washington asks us this. What do you think I say in response? NO!
Also, Cow finishes that lighthouse and starts a forge.
TURN 314
MetalBoats finishes the Globe theatre. Why are we building the Globe theatre in Metal Boats? Whatever, it starts a Hindu Temple.
TURN 315
Bombay finishes a caravel and starts a spy.
TURN 316
Nothing.
TURN 317
Well, Happy Camp Ur finishes and starts a spy, and I decide to attempt to steal Paper.
We fail. Still sore over that, I notice the Aztecs just got Military Tradition. So I try that, and...
SUCCESS!!
That's all.
MatrixTheKitty
Skitty
To draft rifles, I assume.
IdiotsOpposite
Boom, headshot.
Also, unless I'm horribly wrong, you're up, O Fearless and Glorious Leader.
