Method to change road/trail colors?

[Swinkscalibur]

Good work! Looks awesome.

 

[Valkrionn]

So, I'm busy converting the various worker UU's to promotions, and I notice that the only real difference (as far as builds go) for lizard workers is they build Trails rather than Road.

Which brings me to my question: What's the general consensus on Trails and Caravan Routes? Useful? Pointless? Considering removing both altogether. One side effect would be that the Swamp-Dwelling and Dunespeakers techs would be removed.

 

[Swinkscalibur]

I thought there was going to be some work done with some of the route native code stuff you added, if not, I'm not sure they're worth it.

 

[Valkrionn]

That's what I'm in the process of doing now. Was about to transfer the ability to build trails to a promotion, and then stopped and thought "Do we really need these things?".

 

[shoggi]

What do they actually do? Its been a long time since I played Malakim or the Lizards.
Is the only benefit that other races can't use them?
That doesn't sound enough to warrant two extra techs and two additional road types.
Would remove some clutter in the tech tree.
The only other benefit that the swamp-dwelling tech seems to bring is +2 Food on Swamp, which could simply be tied to the civs itself, if I'm not wrong.
I'm for removing them.

 

[Valkrionn]

Right, only purpose left is so that they can move in their territory without being vulnerable to raiders. I'm going to go ahead and remove them, I think.

 

[sylvain5477]

Ask and ye shall receive.

So cool !
Stealing it !

 

[Swinkscalibur]

Is there a way to maintain that advantage (moving without vulnerability) without having unique road types? Perhaps double movement in various terrains (Lizards all get double movement in jungle (and forest?) and Malakim all get double movement in desert)

Edit: Or do I remember this advantage already existing?

 

[sylvain5477]

Right, only purpose left is so that they can move in their territory without being vulnerable to raiders. I'm going to go ahead and remove them, I think.

I think not to be an easy target of units with commando is a big difference.
Should keep trail but use the yellow one !

 

[wfsaxton]

Another thing about trails is that they add +1 trade to each tile they are in.

This doesn't seem to be the case with roads and other civs.

 

[Valkrionn]

Do they? I didn't think they still did that.... I know Caravan Routes used to do that as well, not sure if I kept that or not.

I'll check the code, if they both still increase trade on the tile I'll keep them.

 

[VSPavlov]

Do they? I didn't think they still did that.... I know Caravan Routes used to do that as well, not sure if I kept that or not.

I'll check the code, if they both still increase trade on the tile I'll keep them.

Why would you? Isn't it easier to just give a civilization trait, which would give +1 trade/road?

 

[Valkrionn]

That's not actually possible. Routes aren't improvements, so there isn't any capability atm to give specific yields to them per civilization.

May add the ability later, but as of now don't think I have the time.

 

[Valkrionn]

Neither the Trail nor Caravan Route affect yields; They do absolutely nothing but make Raiders useless in their territory. I'm removing them both.

Edit: Actually, Trails DO grant a commerce when on a Swamp. Will either make that apply to roads, or add it to civ yields for the Swamp.

 

[Valkrionn]

Actually, people on #Erebus are campaigning for preserving Trails... I'll start a poll, and based on the outcome either remove them or leave them in.