Military victories against the odds

What are you talking about? Are you talking about the earlier days of fighting? The battle lasted several days (usually said to be three, not four, iirc), but the inability of the Persians to break through in a previous day didn't mean the Greeks won the battle, they just won that day's fighting. Could you please clarify what you mean?

He basically counts each day of the battle, as a separate battle (or at least first 2 days as one battle and 3rd day as another one).
 
Trafalgar? Obvious one, I know, and considering that the tactics (and probably, the technology) of the British were rather superior compared to the ones French and Spain had (plus that Spain was already from a long, long time in a downwind spiral, and they didn't like French forcing down their throats to fight against the British), but man, the British kicked a lot of ass.
 
It was against Poles, so I suppose the that counts as a military victory against all odds.
 
720 vs 42,000 is a myth. In fact it was more like 500 Poles* vs 12,000 Germans*. The remaining 30,000 Germans were between 19 km and 78 km away from the battlefield of Wizna (and Polish defensive line at Wizna was some 5 km - 6 km long), so I would not count them really.

And Polish strength was also smaller, because 19 soldiers - one squad - was 5 km from the battlefield as an outpost in village Grądy-Woniecko, 77 soldiers (one company of sappers) did not take part in combats and 44 soldiers (mounted recon platoon) was ordered to withdraw before the Germans attacked. The remaining Polish defenders also suffered casualties from Luftwaffe attacks and artillery shelling before German ground units attacked.

*A more detailed breakdown below:

Germans:

- ca. 3500 infantry attacking in first wave (equipped with 60 HMGs, 150 LMGs, 18 light mortars, 12 heavy mortars)
- ca. 1050 close support artillery crews (16 infantry support guns, 36 AT guns, 12 AA guns which were used for direct fire against bunkers)
- ca. 350 soldiers inside tanks (and in total up to 140 light tanks took part in the attack - heavy tanks had problems with crossing the Narew River)
- most probably at least ca. 400 - 600 sappers participating directly in the assault with explosives and supported by 18 - 27 LMGs
- most probably ca. 200 or more mounted recon troops, equipped with at least 18 LMGs and 3 light mortars
- ca. 3800 field artillery crews (indirect fire support) - who had 68 howitzers and cannons firing from the other bank of the Narew, as well as 50 LMGs
- ca. 2700 infantry advancing as 2nd wave or in reserve, gradually reinforcing the 1st wave during the battle (46 HMGs, 123 LMGs, 9 light and 6 heavy mortars)

IN TOTAL:

- ca. 12 thousand soldiers
- up to ca. 140 light tanks (and for sure no less than 70)
- ca. 510 - 520 machine guns
- ca. 48 mortars
- ca. 64 direct support artillery pieces
- ca. 68 field artillery pieces (indirect support)

Add to this also Luftwaffe support, which was especially strong on 8 September (before the main assault by ground troops).

Poles:

- ca. 349 infantry (supported by 28 HMGs, 12 LMGs, 1 light mortar and 5 AT rifles)
- ca. 48 close support artillery crews (2 infantry support guns)
- ca. 63 sappers (no machine gun support)
- ca. 42 field artillery crews (indirect fire support) - equipped with 4 stationary light artillery guns

Cpt. Raginis also had his defence strengthened by 7 heavy bunkers (3 along "Giełczyn-Kołodzieje" sector; 4 along "Strękowa Góra-Kurpiki-Maliszewo" sector).

IN TOTAL:

- ca. 500 soldiers (numerical ratio: 24 to 1 in favour of Germans)
- zero tanks (numerical ratio: total German superiority)
- ca. 40, maybe a bit more, machine guns (numerical ratio: ca. 12 - 13 to 1 in favour of Germans)
- only 1 light mortar (numerical ratio: 48 to 1 in favour of Germans)
- 2 direct support artillery pieces (numerical ratio: 32 to 1 in favour of Germans)
- 4 indirect support artillery pieces (numerical ratio: 17 to 1 in favour of Germans)

Polish defensive lines ("Wizna" defensive position) were in total around 5,000 - 6,000 meters long:

"Giełczyn-Kołodzieje" sector (area highlighted in red) - ca. 2 km long:

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"Strękowa Góra-Kurpiki-Maliszewo" sector (area highlighted in red) - ca. 4 km long:

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held off Germans for three days

More like for 24 hours up to maybe 36 hours (1 - 1,5 days) - when it comes to combats against German ground forces.

During the remaining 1,5 - 2 days what slowed the German advance at Wizna was River Narew, which had to be crossed.

During those days of course Germans were not only crossing the Narew, but also shelling and bombing Polish units (artillery + Luftwaffe).

There were also some clashes between recon units of both sides, and a German attempt to capture a bridge in a surprise attack (which failed).
 
There were more heavy battles fought at the Narew River as well.

For example at Nowogród at the Narew Germans were crossing the river and a battle took place as well, between German 21. Infanterie-Division and one Polish reinforced battalion (III. battalion of 33rd Inf.Rgt. supported by 12 light artillery guns from 18th Art.Rgt. and by one HMG company).

III./33 battalion received a belated help from 42nd Inf.Rgt. - which counterattacked, trying to regain positions captured by German 21. Inf.Division - but without artillery support and without success. Here is some photage taken from the town of Nowogród at the Narew after the battle ended:


Link to video.

Another battle along this part of the Narew River was at Łomża.

At Łomża Poles won a defensive victory, but later had to withdraw because Germans won at Wizna and Nowogród.

Some German after-battle and advance photage from the eastern Narew River region (including areas of Wizna and Łomża):


Link to video.

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But this is actually Off-Topic because those were not victories against the odds - victors had huge superiority in those battles.
 
Some of Babur's battles in India surely count. He had a tendency to win with inferior forces (and possibly better weapons), though I think superior organization had a lot to do with it.
 
taillesskangaru said:
Several battles of the New Zealand Wars probably count. Gate Pa is the one I'm thinking of.
I'd marry you if it was legal in the Territory, honest.
 
Hm, not entirely against the odds, but Greece vs Italy in WWII. The terrain was horrible for Italy, but their army was significantly larger and had some air support too. They ended up losing most of Albania as well, which after the border is not as hilly so they were being clearly pushed back until Herr Hitler came to the rescue from Yugoslavia and through the line of forts set in the Greek and Serbian and Bulgarian border. Another factor in the Italian defeat is often argued to be the lack of moral/will in the Italian army (soldiers) to attack Greece.

Not sure if this counts, but the Lacedaemonian fleet at AigosPotamoi? There are conflicting accounts of what happened, one of them being that the Athenian fleet was left on the shore so that the bulk of the sailors could forage for food nearby, but another account is that the spartan fleet first defeated a smaller part of the Athenian one, and immediately surprised the rest.

At any rate this was what ended the second (and final) part of the Peloponnesian war, along with the aftermath of the Persian wars which left Athens a towering power.
 
Yes. Forgive me, but I must do it.


But we made up for that later!

I'm still not sure how the Catalan Company was so absurdly deadly. I recently checked out a book on the subject, but barely had a chance to read it before I had to return it, and it was not terribly academic.
 
Yeah, it is incredible, isn't it? I mean, they were on the verge of annihilation in the siege at Gallipoli, even then they won, smashed their enemies and go full berserk on Greece. Until very recently, Catalans were not allowed to visit Mount Athos because of the ransacking done by them there. :lol:
 
Colenso in 1899 - 4,500 Boers with 0 cannons defeated 17,000 British troops with 44 cannons and only 8 Boers died in the process.

Among British casualties in that battle were 10 of their cannons captured by the Boers (I really wonder how they did this).

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Repelling 5th and 6th Soviet offensives in the Panjshir Valley (15 May - 16 November 1982) comes to mind:

Some 5,000 Afghan guerilla fighters with just light and improvised weapons (IEDs, mortars, AT rocket launchers, light AA weapons, etc.) defeated 12,000 Soviet troops with 320 AFVs, 150 guns and mortars as well as air support (Soviet losses included ca. 50 AFVs, 35 helicopters and 8 aircrafts):


Link to video.

I find it funny though, how this video calls the Soviet intervention occupation, while current US + NATO intervention is "enduring freedom".
 
Battle of Mogilev on 27 June 1581.

Less than 1000 men of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (including 200 hussars under Marcin Kazanowski, ca. 150 medium cavalry under Temruk Szymkowicz and ca. 150 cossack light cavalry under Halibek - as well as armed civilians of the city of Mogilev) - defeated 30000 Russians and Tatars.

Also casualties of Polish-Lithuanian forces were minimal. Defenders of the city lost only 2 wounded people, nobody out of 200 hussars was killed (even though many were wounded - especially by arrows) and only the unit of cossacks under Halibek suffered heavy losses. Casualties of medium cavalry (Petyhorcy) under Temruk are unknown.

Here goes the story:

In June 1581 a Muscovite-Tatar army numbering - depending on source - 30 thousand, 40 thousand or 45 thousand troops + some cannons - invaded the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, in the borderzone strip extending through the cities and towns of Dubrovna - Orsha - Kopys - Szklow, up to the line Mogilev - Radoml - Mstsislaw, advancing towards the main city of the region - Mogilev. Polish and Lithuanian forces in the area were hugely outnumbered, numbering only 1000 cavalry and being considerably dispersed over the vast area.

Muscovite-Tatar forces - as reported by a Polish scout Strawiński - were led by the following commanders (in total 15 commanders were reported by Strawiński):

"Elder voivodes: Mikhailo Petrovich Kaiterov, second Andrei Ivanovich Chvorostenin, etc., etc. (below I quote the full list of 15 commanders in Polish spelling):

„wojewodowie starsi: Michaiło Piotrowicz Kaiterów, drugi Andrei Iwanowicz Chworostenin, trzeci Izmaiłów, czwarty Roman Dmitrowicz Buturlin, piąty kniaź Michaiło Wasilewicz Nozdrowati, szósty kniaź Iwan Michaiłowicz Wołchowski, siódmy kniaź Marculey Sczerbati, ósmy Iwan Michaiłowicz Baturkin, dziewiąty Feder Fustow, dziesiąty Michaiło Hliebów Sałtikow, jedenasty kniaź Iwan Boratinskij, dwunasty w stróżowym pułku tatarzyn kniaź Iwan Kulanczuk Czermikoy tatarzyn, trzynasty Wołodimir Holowicz, czternasty Wasiley Ianów, wojewoda kozaków dońskich, piętnasty Iermak Czimofieiewicz, ataman kozacki”

After that Strawiński describes the composition of enemy forces (which included 5 Tatar hordes):

"with them [15 commanders] were the Tatar peoples, that is temnikowska, kadomska, kasimowska, woiemaska, swiaskia [Sivash in English] and czobosarska hordes, as well as Muscovites [Russians] - numbering 45 000 [both Russians and Tatars], in addition 1000 Don Cossack and Muscovite mounted shooters [dragoons]."

So in total 46000 (or 45000 if dragoons are already included) soldiers according to Strawiński.

These forces crossed the Dnieper River on 25 June, and advanced towards Mogilev. On 27 June, a Russian army attacked the outskirts of Mogilev. It burned them, after which - as certain Strawiński reported to the king:

"(...) The enemies attempted to approach to the city donjon, with the intention of burning it, but with God's help we prevented this by fire from the castle and from the donjon, having also shooters with arquebuses deployed between the hurdles and inside houses, organizing counter-raids and we were not giving pardon; this way with God's help and with Your Majesty's luck, in the above mentioned outskirts of the city they burned several hundred houses, but did not inflict any damage in men upon us and did not capture any of us, they only wounded two of our men, while suffering a huge loss of life and damage among their own people as the result of our fire, both from the castle and from the city donjon. (...)"

But bravery of the inhabitants of Mogilev would not be enough to stop the Russians, if not the help provided by regular forces - at first by Winged Hussars (one unit under Marcin Kazanowski, numbering on paper 200 horsemen), and 7 hours after Kazanowski, light cavalry (a unit of Petyhorcy under Temruk Szymkowicz, numbering on paper 164 horsemen, and a unit of cossack cavalry under Krzysztof Radziwiłł led by Halibek, numbering on paper 150 horsemen).

Details of the cavalry engagement are known thanks to account of certain Hołowczyński, who on 30 June 1581 wrote to the king:

"(...) The enemy approached Your Royal Majesty's city of Mogilev and burned the outskirts of Mogilev, destroying several hundred houses, and thanks to their hugely superior numbers they almost managed to pour into the city and the castle, but with God's help Your Royal Majesty's military people, units of the Lord of Trakai (Krzysztof Radziwiłł), of Sir Kazanowski and of Sir Temruk, who managed to mobilize on time, repulsed the attackers and defended the castle and the city by engaging the enemies in battle. (...)"

Also Jan Piotrowski in his account written on 11 July 1581 described those events:

"(...) On 27 June, as lieutenant Markowski reports, 30,000 Muscovites and Tatars approached the city of Mogilev. Even though despicable and paltry soldiers, they almost captured Mogilev, because the hussar unit of Kazanowski alone without its captain, informed about the enemy approaching, hastily advanced to defend Mogilev with just 200 horsemen; they were chasing after them there for 7 hours, in such a way, that they did not let the Muscovites to enter the city. Later another unit under Temruk came with help [164 medium cavalry]. Muscovy, having many of their soldiers empaled, started to withdraw and approaching the Dnieper River, started to cross it. Our forces continued to harass them during that crossing, chasing them away and capturing several prisoners, who were later brought by this here lieutenant Markowski to the king. In that battle the unit of Kazanowski suffered a lot of damage in horses: Muscovites were heavily shooting at them with bows and arquebuses. Also many companions and soldiers were wounded; but nobody [in this unit] was killed, with God's grace. (...)"

But the unit of 150 cossack cavalry under Halibek lost many killed and 3 captured soldiers (captured by Russians were: Gulski, Żbikowski and Kured).

Mogilev survived the Muscovite onslaught. Hastily withdrawing Russian forces marched eastward towards Orsha, burning some villages during their retreat.

Later that year (1581), king Stephen Bathory invaded Muscovy and laid siege to the city of Pskov.

Source:

Article "200 hussars against Muscovy" by Radosław Sikora:

http://www.kresy.pl/kresopedia,historia,rzeczpospolita?zobacz/200-husarzy-przeciw-moskwie

Another battle in which hussars of Marcin Kazanowski distinguished themselves was the battle of Lubieszów Lake on April 17 1577:

Here Radosław Sikora's article "The best of the best, one more time about hussars of Marcin Kazanowski" describing the battle of Lubieszów:

http://www.kresy.pl/kresopedia,hist...o-husarzach-marcina-kazanowskiego-raz-jeszcze

Panorama photo of the battlefield at Lubieszów:

http://s6.ifotos.pl/img/panorama-_xwqqnqn.jpg
 
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