missing terrain graphics?

[solistus]

I just installed RoM and I'm noticing two problems (and one potential problem) right off the bat:

1. The background image for the main menu says Warlords, with Rise of Mankind in text at the top right (I confirmed that the build running was BTS 3.19).

2. All of the terrain textures are missing and show solid black squares instead. Forests, the animated waves on shores, resource graphics, units, etc. show up, but the terrain is missing.

3. Not sure if this is normal but Civ 'hangs' for a substantial chunk of time before showing the normal loading screen. Once that pops up, it doesn't take noticeably longer than any other mod to load, but it hangs for longer than the normal loading time before it shows any sign that it has started loading.


Portions of the mod, at least, must be loading - I get a list of the various components that initialised on startup, all the new civs, techs, etc. show up, etc. Everything aside from the above appeared to be working, although I haven't bothered to play at all because of the above issues so it's possible that more is broken than meets the eye. Vanilla BTS and all other mods I've tested work fine.

I'm running BTS 3.19. I've tested 2.8 mega and then 2.81 (patched up from mega). My Rise of Mankind directory is 2.21GB (2.23 on disk); is that correct for a 2.81 mega install?

I scanned through the log files and nothing seemed noteworthy except perhaps the top entry in PythonErr2:

sys.path = ['..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\email', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\encodings', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\build', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\py', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\colourchooser', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\editor', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\floatcanvas', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\masked', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\mixins', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\lib\\ogl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\af', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ca', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\cs', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\da', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\de', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\el', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\es', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\eu', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fi', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fr', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hi', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hu', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\id', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\it', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ja', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\lv', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nb', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pt_BR', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ru', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sl', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sv', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\tr', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\uk', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_CN', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_TW', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\af\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ca\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\cs\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\da\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\de\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\el\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\es\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\eu\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fi\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\fr\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hi\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\hu\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\id\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\it\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ja\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\lv\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nb\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\nl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\pt_BR\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\ru\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sl\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\sv\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\tr\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\uk\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_CN\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\locale\\zh_TW\\LC_MESSAGES', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\py\\tests', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools\\XRCed', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM\\wx\\tools\\XRCed\\src-images', '..\\WARLORDS\\ASSETS\\PYTHON\\SYSTEM']



Let me know if I need to provide more info to diagnose this problem. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to help me; this mod seems great and I look forward to being able to play it.

 

[JosEPh_II]

#1 is easy to fix.
When you load BtS 1st screen click the Advanced button.
When 2nd screen loads click Options button.
In the options popup window Select Graphics Tab, go to last menu on left side(Opening Menu). In your case it will say Warlords. Click arrow on top right and select either BtS Classical or BTS.

This will solve this minor problem

2. Uninstall 2.8 Mega
3. Install RoM2.8 (either Lite or Full) since you seem to want many civs then use Full.
Then install the 2.81 patch.

Now test to see if RoM2.81 starts and is playable.
Be sure that you are installing to this path: (letter of your main drive, for example c):\Program Files (x86)\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods
Do Not install RoM to the My Doc path. Important!

If everything works and is installed correctly (if it works then it's installed right )

Now MegaCiv Pack 2.8 gives some Vista and Windows 7 users fits. So use at your discretion but be aware a low end computer and/or those OS systems mentioned have problems with it.

Good Hunting.

JosEPh

 

[solistus]

Sure enough, downgrading to Full resolved the no terrain textures issue. I suppose the Warlords splash was just a matter of the setting mysteriously getting mis-set and not a sign of some deeper problem with loading the mod files, then, and the slowness is just because there are about a trillion files to load for this mod

FWIW, my machine is far from low end for Civ's standards (4 gigs DDR3 RAM, Phenom II x2 550, Radeon 4850 1GB, many gigs of free HDD space so no shortage of swap space / virtual memory). I guess it's some weird software memory management-related issue.

Thanks for the help... Off to explore the absurd amount of new content between RoM and New Dawn.

 

[AndarielHalo]

I'm having Problem #2 myself, but it's not happening ALL the time.

It's very, extremely random. Sometimes it happens once, then I re-open it, and it's fixed. Sometimes it doesn't happen at all. Right now, it's some 7 or 8 times still going.


EDIT: And I'm absolutely NOT playing WITHOUT the mega pack. I love the dozens of extra civs. I must have variety!

 

[Afforess]

I'm having Problem #2 myself, but it's not happening ALL the time.

It's very, extremely random. Sometimes it happens once, then I re-open it, and it's fixed. Sometimes it doesn't happen at all. Right now, it's some 7 or 8 times still going.


EDIT: And I'm absolutely NOT playing WITHOUT the mega pack. I love the dozens of extra civs. I must have variety!

I would suggest opening the ModularLoadingControls file and turning off a few civs there (Change the 1 to 0), as I've seen that even disabling only 5 new civilizations have fixed the issue.


Offtopic, but your sig:

Aside from The GI Bill, Endangered Species Act, Environmental Laws, The Space Program, The Peace Corps, Americorps, The Civil Rights Movement, Earned Income Tax Credit, Family & Medical Leave Act, Consumer Product Safety Commission, Freedom of Information Act, Workplace Safety Laws, The Tennessee Valley Project, Women's Right to Vote, Universal Public Education, National Weather Service, Rural Electrification, Public Universities, Bank Deposit Insurance (FDIC), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Public Broadcasting, Supporting the establishment of Israel, The United Nations, and NATO, what have liberals ever done for us?

It made me laugh. I know it's meant to praise liberals, but it also condemns them in my eyes.

 

[AndarielHalo]

I meant to add more things, but the signature limited me. Had to leave out a lot of good ones, too, like desegregating the US military.

And I'm not disabling ANY civilizations! Except maybe the Dutch. That de Witt leaderhead is so damn ugly and sleazy-looking, it freaks me out and makes me feel shooty

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

And I'm not disabling ANY civilizations! Except maybe the Dutch. That de Witt leaderhead is so damn ugly and sleazy-looking, it freaks me out and makes me feel shooty

Then play without terrain graphics - the choice is yours

 

[AndarielHalo]

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Even if it's an extremely random occurrence?


EDIT: You say disabling "even only 5" as though that's some small amount? What about just one? I was thinking of disabling just one.

 

[civ_king]

@AndarielHalo you can have a longer sig if you put it in a spoiler