[MOD] Fall from Heaven II

Vatras said:
The new spell on Fire/Sorcery level 1 was a real surprise. I saw it may burn down woods and jungle, which suits me fine, as I have lots of jungle, and no sanitation tech yet. In this game I am sharing a continent with several others and raging barbarians, and my whole production rests on the woods, which cover the continent around 70%, 10% of which are jungle.
So I go up to the hill with the jungle I want removed and cast the spell. All that happens is black smoke. I say to myself, this spell has maybe just a chance to clear a field of jungle, and retry next turn. It turns out, I cant cast it, so I conclude, it works maybe only once per field. I walk over to the next field and recast it there, getting only smoke again. Crap spell I thought, moving the mage away and looked up where sanitation is in the tech tree. On the next turn the first field went up in fire. Oh, I thought, I see, they made it so, that it takes as long as workers would need to preserve balance, useful spell, though. On the next turn the inferno flared up and sprang over to an area of 5x5 squares. Within 10 turns the continent went up in flames, burning away all the woods (and my production capacity).

Therefore, please, put some warning on the package, that using this spell may cause sudden and large changes to the environment :mischief:

Btw, it *did* remove the jungle after all, so the description was correct, if maybe not complete...:)
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Hilarious story. I personally find the spell a little overpowered against the non-reacting AI, so I only use it during wartime. Does anyone know what chance it actually has of clearing the forest/jungle? It seemed like every continent I burned just went up in flames for a while and no burnt forests were ever created.
 
I'm getting back to play FfHII and i'm confuse about some stuff. I didnt get yet the expansion Beyond the Sword, but I like to listen new musics from and so i tried to download tha Media Pack at first. Have the Media pack of version 0.30 musics from 0.25 and new ones ? Or have I to get both Media Packs ? Thanks and congratulations for the amazing work.
 
I liked scortch spell being able to change plains into desert was it changed to under a different mana type or was it removed completely?

brb
 
Hi everybody!
I´m on my second 0.30 game checking out the Sidar, having lots of fun!
I have chosen "Raging Barbarians" and spamm hunters, so every time one of the dudes is lvl 6 he is turned into a shade and voila: another great Specialist for my Capital! Realy great & eventualy a bit overpowered... esp. the +1 food from the GM which allows - sooner or later- annother (normal) specialist... Where we are rigth at the reason for my post: Both normal and great specialists dont create the +1 X that they should! It is dispayed that a great engineer produces 4 Hammers but he actually only provides 3. Same with all the others.... GRRRR!

Anyway, i´m having lots of fun! Thanky Kael and team you amazed me again!
 
Ambreville said:
Running Kuriotates. I'm trying to build cities and I end up with "settlements". These are like cities but with a pop of 1 and that cannot grow beyond that or add buildings. How do I get them to behave like normal CIV4 cities???
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You can't.

The kuriotates are limited to a few large cities. (number based on map size)

You will have noticed that you can work three rows of tiles in each city, not the regular two in your cities.

You need to be careful how you place the three (usually) cities you will get.
 
AlazkanAssassin said:
You can't.

The kuriotates are limited to a few large cities. (number based on map size)

You will have noticed that you can work three rows of tiles in each city, not the regular two.

You need to be careful how you place the three (usually) cities you will get.
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Is it possible capture other cities and have them behave like normal CIV4 cities?
 
AlazkanAssassin said:
No.

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I guess I don't understand the point of the limitation. If having the ability of using a 3-square radius for cities is an advantage specific to Kuriotates, it seems that such a limitation on remaining cities goes way too far as a counterbalance. I don't understand what the benefit is to creating "settlements" that apparently don't do much of anything -- you can't build anything with them. I'm confused as to the overall strategy of Kuriotates at this point.
 
Ambreville said:
I guess I don't understand the point of the limitation. If having the ability of using a 3-square radius for cities is an advantage specific to Kuriotates, it seems that such a limitation on remaining cities goes way too far as a counterbalance. I don't understand what the benefit is to creating "settlements" that apparently don't do much of anything -- you can't build anything with them. I'm confused as to the overall strategy of Kuriotates at this point.
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Kuriotates are builders. Over expansion does very little to help them. Conversely, since you do not pay maintenance on settlements it does very little to harm you either.

Settlements are useful for collecting resources and for denying enemies access to land.
Build up your core cities as much as possible. Grab any wonders you can that give bonuses to that city like the Crown of Akherien's +50% science.
 
AlazkanAssassin said:
Kuriotates are builders. Over expansion does very little to help them. Conversely, since you do not pay maintenance on settlements it does very little to harm you either.

Settlements are useful for collecting resources and for denying enemies access to land.
Build up your core cities as much as possible. Grab any wonders you can that give bonuses to that city like the Crown of Akherien's +50% science.
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I remember in version 0.23 settlements could build wealth, research, and culture, and I think one or two buildings (harbor, maybe?). So they were a bit more useful than just grabbing territory. Still, an interesting civ to play.
 
Ambreville said:
I guess I don't understand the point of the limitation. If having the ability of using a 3-square radius for cities is an advantage specific to Kuriotates, it seems that such a limitation on remaining cities goes way too far as a counterbalance. I don't understand what the benefit is to creating "settlements" that apparently don't do much of anything -- you can't build anything with them. I'm confused as to the overall strategy of Kuriotates at this point.
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I would view it as an alternate style. I haven't played them, but remember that a culture victory for them is a lot easier with a few huge cities that more normal sized cities.

Best wishes,

Breunor
 
Ambreville said:
I guess I don't understand the point of the limitation. If having the ability of using a 3-square radius for cities is an advantage specific to Kuriotates, it seems that such a limitation on remaining cities goes way too far as a counterbalance. I don't understand what the benefit is to creating "settlements" that apparently don't do much of anything -- you can't build anything with them. I'm confused as to the overall strategy of Kuriotates at this point.
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You CAN use a Great Sage to build an Academy in a Settlement -- you 't get very little research, obviously, since Settlements generate so little commerce, but the +4 culture is helpful (with multipliers from civics) to push the boundaries out a bit. Not worth doing until you've built Academies in all your major cities, of course. Also not worth doing if you're behind technologically and need the GS to lightbulb a tech.
 
dwhee said:
Hilarious story. I personally find the spell a little overpowered against the non-reacting AI, so I only use it during wartime. Does anyone know what chance it actually has of clearing the forest/jungle? It seemed like every continent I burned just went up in flames for a while and no burnt forests were ever created.
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Before BTS the chance depended on the armageddon counter (the higher the counter the higher the chance of spreading fire), not sure, if this is still the case. It's good to have a water-adept nearby ;)
 
So to quote from a thread in the design forum:
seZereth said:
thanks guys for all your interest!

If you want to support us, please vote for us at:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/8602/fall-from-heaven-ii

this time, no registration or anything, it just counts how many people wanted to say "thanks" to us.

If questions arise, have a look at this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253619

thanks guys for your support!!!!!!!

(by voting for us and by bumping this thread, you can make us work harder :p)
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basically, here's the FfH entry on the Mod of the Year Database (or something like that).
The page hasn't been updated recently, since we're not really trying too hard to win it, but anyways...
 
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