Sahkuhnder
Delusions of grandeur
@ 12monkeys
Great work. This improves things alot. Thanks!
Great work. This improves things alot. Thanks!
[MOD] Modified Special Domestic Advisor
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_alphaBeta_
King
This mod is superb! I cannot believe something like this wasn't included in the stock game. Well done!
I have a question about the free XP points per city in the military screen. Mine are consistently zero even with things like dry dock, barracks, vassalage etc. Is this what this is measuring? A city with a barracks should be registering at least 4.
Although I guess you would need a lot of columns since land units will sometimes receive more free XP than ships if a dry dock is missing and vice versa.
Just wondering, but excellent job!
Your interceptor mod is equally superb as well.
Addition:
A good amount of the first few columns of the military screen do not respond - it's not just the stuff above. I just finished playing extensively with it today. War weariness does not register and neither does experience as outlined above.
I have a question about the free XP points per city in the military screen. Mine are consistently zero even with things like dry dock, barracks, vassalage etc. Is this what this is measuring? A city with a barracks should be registering at least 4.
Although I guess you would need a lot of columns since land units will sometimes receive more free XP than ships if a dry dock is missing and vice versa.
Just wondering, but excellent job!
Your interceptor mod is equally superb as well.
Addition:
A good amount of the first few columns of the military screen do not respond - it's not just the stuff above. I just finished playing extensively with it today. War weariness does not register and neither does experience as outlined above.
12monkeys
Prince
Sorry beeing so quiet the last time, but I have been abroad to work for some days and after I return I went ill. I will start to respond to some requests now :
and found it as a better symbol than the bullets. Will be implemented in the next version.
Anyway, thanks for the idea.
I checked it and your right. It'll be fixed in the next version.Duke van Frost said:
Its possible and will be implemented in the next version. Thx for that good idea.Duke van Frost said:
I had a long and hard discussion with myselfDuke van Frost said:
and found it as a better symbol than the bullets. Will be implemented in the next version. I'll make it short, because a detailed explanation of the "why" is quite complex : it might be possible but I will not even try to do it, because its very likely that this will be sideffects on the linespacing. I have to reduce all icons within texts and the grid to the icons you can found in the "GameFonts.TGA" file.Duke van Frost said:
Anyway, thanks for the idea.
I though about it and decided not to implement it. I simply don't like the idea. As Cammagno already mentioned, you have the button available as soon as you select the city in the grid.Patricius said:
Thx!sahkuhnder said:
Thx! I agree, that the advisors are very poor in the stock game. Especially the Domestic and the Military Advisor._alphaBeta_ said:
I simply use the Python function CyCity.getFreeExperience() which is provided with the Python API. I did check it again and found out, that this function only returns a value unequal to zero, if the city has the "West Point Acadamy". I also found out, that there are more versions for this function. In total there are one for each of the following objects : City, Player, Civic and Building. That means, I did choose the wrong way to calculate the value. Don't understand why I didn't noticed that during testing. A simple approach for a solution would be, to sum all of those values, but that may be confusing if a city has baracks and a drydock. This would result in the value of 8 instead of 4. The only solution is to create seperate columns for each domain, but this would eat up some space in display. Does anybody else have a good idea???_alphaBeta_ said:
Thx. For both!_alphaBeta_ said:
Mmmh. Not a very precise statement, to be honest. Can you pe more specific where the problem is, please? Maybe post a screenshot or send me a savegame._alphaBeta_ said:
Thx for both. The translation will be added to the next release. May I can contact you for further translations?Alek_civ said:
Patricius
Dominus de Bellum
Patricius said:
RobO
King
I simple Yes/No indicator (does the city provide experience?) is the basic, simple, solution.12monkeys said:
Another one is to just focus on land units (which is the most used variant) and give the total for these.
And finally, the difficult one: One column for each (land, naval, air).
Cammagno
King
12monkeys said:
Yes, the MA does need some improvement... any hope you'll think about it? It'd be wonderful!
12monkeys said:
I think that, if possible, the best solution will be to have 2 columns, one for land units and the other one for sea units.
_alphaBeta_
King
By first few columns I was referring to these: "NO_MILITARY_ANGER", "WAR_WEARINESS" & "FREE_EXPERIENCE" :12monkeys said:
The XP issue is already being discussed. Personally, I would like to see two columns for land and sea XP coming from buildings, civics and wonders. That would be extremely handy. If there's no room, how about a blanket field to tell you how many experience points are coming from just wonders & civics? It's easy enough to find out where the barracks and dry docks are from your building screen. What's annoying to keep calculating is wonders and civics.
My other issue was war weariness columns identified above. If I have war weariness in cities, the icon doesn't change, and the value is always zero. I like how it's supposed to calculate weariness even when not at war, that takes the guesswork out of it. But even when at war, with definite war weariness in the city screens, nothing shows for me.
Taurus
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12Monkeys, great job! Advisor, which you can really use!
But last time I found a small bug:
1. open Domestic advisor (F1),
2. check which city produces most hammers, click on header with hammer so it will sort number of hammers each city produces,
3. click on one of cities (enter the city screen) just to check it out,
4. exit the city screen, you are back in domestic advisor screen,
5. click on hammer in header to sort again - sorting is in "alphabetic" way (0,105,23,3...) instead of "integer" way (0,3,23,105...)
However, way to go, 12M!
Taurus
But last time I found a small bug:
1. open Domestic advisor (F1),
2. check which city produces most hammers, click on header with hammer so it will sort number of hammers each city produces,
3. click on one of cities (enter the city screen) just to check it out,
4. exit the city screen, you are back in domestic advisor screen,
5. click on hammer in header to sort again - sorting is in "alphabetic" way (0,105,23,3...) instead of "integer" way (0,3,23,105...)
However, way to go, 12M!
Taurus
Hi 12monkeys.
I cannot play without MSDA now. Thanks.
Bug or 'idiosyncracy'. If Igo into a city from MSDA then out (back to MSDA) then back to map, the city sounds persist over the map sounds. Go back into city from map then back out again. City sounds gone. Just me (idiosnycracy) or bug ?
Many thanks.
I cannot play without MSDA now. Thanks.
Bug or 'idiosyncracy'. If Igo into a city from MSDA then out (back to MSDA) then back to map, the city sounds persist over the map sounds. Go back into city from map then back out again. City sounds gone. Just me (idiosnycracy) or bug ?
Many thanks.
Is it somehow possible to modify the production list so that one can tell whether or not a given building or unit has begun construction as in has had added any hammers to its order?
The reason I ask is that I often make use of UF to rush buy things and adding just a few hammers to a given task significantly reduces the cost of rush buying.
The reason I ask is that I often make use of UF to rush buy things and adding just a few hammers to a given task significantly reduces the cost of rush buying.
12monkeys
Prince
Nials said:
I tried to read out the production list and to display if a building has already been started. Unfortunatly there is only one working method which allows us to read out the production list elements and this method requires the city to be selected. If the city is not selected, there is currently no chance to get some details about the production list, other then the length of the production list.
So to get your infroamtion you have to select the city and go to the city screen., Started buildings are marked with an "*" at the end.
12monkeys
Prince
Pilotis said:
Never noticed that. But it seems to be a problem of the game, because I don't deal with sounds in the advisor.
Anyway, thanks for your feedback
12monkeys
Prince
Taurus said:
I got that sorting issue already reported from apolyton and its on my todo list. Thanks for your help.
12monkeys
Prince
_alphaBeta_ said:
I think I will go for the two seperate columns. But final decision will be made very spontanously when I start to implement it
Regarding war-weariness, I will have a look on it again. But anyway, I just call a Python function which returns a value which is presented by me. So, my possbile influence is poor in that case.
View attachment 117381Hum.
Actually had this a few times now. Hit F1 or button and 'donk'. Game over. Civ4 freezes and have to use Task Manager to crash to desktop. Only happens occasionally. Not had it with vanilla DA. I will still keep using MSDA - it's just too useful. But any comment or help appreciated.
(I've reduced colours to 16bit hence weird look.....)
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Actually had this a few times now. Hit F1 or button and 'donk'. Game over. Civ4 freezes and have to use Task Manager to crash to desktop. Only happens occasionally. Not had it with vanilla DA. I will still keep using MSDA - it's just too useful. But any comment or help appreciated.
(I've reduced colours to 16bit hence weird look.....)
P.
12monkeys
Prince
Pilotis said:
Strange. Never got reported such a problem. Will be hard to find a reason, because it only happens occasionally.
Do you have other mods installed as well? If so, which one?
Is the advisor panel, or any parts of the advisor displayed before the crash?
_alphaBeta_
King
Another column that would be really useful for the city screen:
Base Production <-- the value that's displayed when you mouse over the production in the city screen. It's a raw add of the hammers in the city.
When trying to figure where to build anything fast, the regular hammer value currently displayed is misleading. This value takes into account the overflow and any bonuses applied, which may not apply to what you're trying to build.
Another use is when you want to build something like the heroic epic (+100% military production) in a city that consistently has the highest production. It's possible when looking at the current screen that you would select a city for a high value that was only because temporary overflow from a previous build.
Base Production <-- the value that's displayed when you mouse over the production in the city screen. It's a raw add of the hammers in the city.
When trying to figure where to build anything fast, the regular hammer value currently displayed is misleading. This value takes into account the overflow and any bonuses applied, which may not apply to what you're trying to build.
Another use is when you want to build something like the heroic epic (+100% military production) in a city that consistently has the highest production. It's possible when looking at the current screen that you would select a city for a high value that was only because temporary overflow from a previous build.
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